RE: [SI-LIST] : Parallel Plate Capacitance for Bypass

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From: Grasso, Charles (Chaz) (GrassC@LOUISVILLE.STORTEK.COM)
Date: Tue Mar 28 2000 - 15:11:55 PST


You might be interested in a project led by NCMS that is the
National Centre for Manufacturing Sciences on Embedded
Capacitance.

Details may be found at http://www.ewh.ieee.org/r5/denver/rockymountainemc.
Goto Archives and look at the download available in October and November of
99.
Thank you
Charles Grasso
StorageTek
2270 Sth 88th Street
Louisville CO 80027
Tel: (303)673-2908
Fax(303)661-7115

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> From: Hansen, Chris[SMTP:chris_hansen@adaptec.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 1:25 PM
> To: SI List (E-mail)
> Subject: [SI-LIST] : Parallel Plate Capacitance for Bypass
>
> According to specifications, X7R type chip capacitors used for power
> subsystem bypass seem to become ineffective above 150 to 200 Mhz.  For
> frequencies higher up, you are reliant upon the internal parallel plate
> capacitance.  I have two questions. 
>  
> 1. Is the calculation for the required capacitance that is needed for the
> parallel plate capacitance the same as that used for a discrete chip
> capacitor bypass network, or is there a conservation of charge situation
> where the real answer is Cpp*dVnoise = Cload*dVchange? (where Cpp =
> parallel plate capacitance, dVnoise = tolerable change in power supply
> voltage, Cload = sum of load capacitance being switched simultaneously,
> dVchange = voltage change through driver output switch). 
>  
> 2. If you have a power plane sandwiched between 2 ground planes, does the
> parallel plate capacitance double for a given area?
>  
> Thank you,
> Chris Hansen
> Sr. Design Engineer
> DPT & Adaptec Companies
>  
>

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