Re: [SI-LIST] : Number of GND/Power pins in a connector ?

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From: Jim Freeman (freeman@broadcom.com)
Date: Thu Mar 23 2000 - 15:29:00 PST


A second reason for having both pwr and gnds is for return paths for high speed signals. For a signal being pulled high, the return curent is thru the VCC path.
    You say CMOS and then add that most are PCI bus pins. Cmos levels to me mean that the threshold is VCC/2 and therefore for the signals other than the PCI bus, both pwr and gnd are necessary. PCI is
a horse of a different color. Best to follow the PCI backplane to the letter and that will be safe.

Jim Freeman

Stuart Adams wrote:

> > Hi Stuart,
> > You don't specify the signalling system going thru the connector.
>
> Well, in my case the signaling system is all 3.3 volt CMOS (with
> 5 volt PCI compliance). The connector is 160 pins and contains
> an embedded PCI bus (at 33 MHz), 16 pins of video data, 10/100 ethernet
> and various slower discrete I/O.
>
> I currently have 20 pins allocated for GNDs, spread throughout the
> connecter (more less the same as the PCI spec). In most cases the
> board will run from a 3.3v LDO linear regulator on the board and I
> have 3 pins allocated for unregulated DC in. In some cases the
> board will operate from externally supplied 3.3 volts and I
> have 3 pins allocated for external VCC. (Worst case steady state
> current is only 600 mA - max current spec'd per pin for the
> connector is 500 mA)
>
> Our board is 1.4" x 2.4" and has about 40 bypass caps and four 47uF
> bulk tantalums. Our customer's will designing the motherboard it mates
> to so we can't predict what it will look like for simulation but we could
> provide them some design guidelines for bypassing/layout.
>
> -- Stuart
>
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