RE: [SI-LIST] : XTK vs ICX

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From: Weston Beal (weston_beal@mentorg.com)
Date: Mon Jan 17 2000 - 08:46:24 PST


Tony,

Although I work for Mentor Graphics and that automatically creates some
prejudice, I only started working here two weeks ago. The reason I came to
work here is my strong belief in the power of IS (ICX). I worked with XTK
every day for three years, and could be considered an expert user. I chose
to use IS after that and worked with it every day for 1 year. If you want
usability, IS is the champion. XTK has a slight advantage at times in that
they develope their own modeling language, hence don't have to wait for the
IBIS specification to develope. That has not always been an advantage,
though. They still need to translate IBIS files into QUAD models and
sometimes this hangs them up for a while. While Eplanner and scratchpad
from Viewlogic are very nice tools and are going in the right direction, IS
already does all the same things and has for years.

I could go on for a long time, but I won't at this point. Send me a direct
Email with any specific questions and I'll go into more detail.

Regards,
Weston

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Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:16 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] : XTK vs ICX

Dear Gentleman,

My company is in the process of evaluation several Signal Integrity Tools
such
as XTK, ICX and Hyperlynx.
We eliminated Hyperlynx already. Our requirements are to design a 19 slot
chassis ( main card, backplane and several plug in cards). We have several
high
speed (622Mbs) BLVDS buses, ethernet, gigabit, OC12, OC48, 128 MHz 64 bit
DRAM
buses (1Gig), PECL We are focusing on model support, easy of use, rules
checking, what-if, multi-board, tool support.

I would be interested in any feedback as to your experience in using these
tools
(Pros and Cons).

Thanks
Tony

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