RE: [SI-LIST] : Decoupling capacitors (again!)

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From: Istvan Novak - Board Design Technology (inovak@pompom.east.sun.com)
Date: Fri Aug 18 2000 - 12:36:47 PDT


Larry,

thanks for your note. I was just very busy until now...

Istvan

        Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT)
        From: Larry Smith <Larry.Smith@eng.sun.com>
        Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Decoupling capacitors (again!)
        To: ldmiller@nortelnetworks.com, inovak@pompom.East.Sun.COM
        Cc: Martin.J.Thompson@trw.com, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com,
istvan.novak@east.sun.com
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        Istvan - If you are not going to plug your excellent work published at
        Design Con 2000, I will! Istvan has shown how to overcome some of the
        difficult measurement challenges in:
        
                "Measuring Milliohms and Picohenrys in Power Distribution
Networks"
        
                http://home.att.net/~istvan.novak/papers.html
                
        regards,
        Larry Smith
        Sun Microsystems
        
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:09:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Istvan Novak - Board Design Technology
<inovak@pompom.east.sun.com>
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Decoupling capacitors (again!)
> To: ldmiller@nortelnetworks.com
> Cc: Martin.J.Thompson@trw.com, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com,
istvan.novak@east.sun.com
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> Larry,
>
> If my math is correct, 0.02 ohms at 200MHz represents about 15pH of
inductance. Not
> easy, but today we can measure such low values with vector network
analyzers. With
> two-port measurements, the limit is really due to the probe
configuration and
> connection. With nothing fancy, you can go down to a few picohenrys
with the residual
> inductance.
>
> Regards
>
> Istvan Novak
> SUN Microsystems
>
> X-Unix-From: ldmiller@nortelnetworks.com Thu Aug 17 17:34:42
2000
> From: "Larry Miller" <ldmiller@nortelnetworks.com>
> To: Martin J Thompson <Martin.J.Thompson@trw.com>, si-list
> <si-list@silab.eng.sun.com>
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Decoupling capacitors (again!)
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:51:49 -0700
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> Twenty milli-ohms. 0.02 ohm. At 100 MHz. How does one measure
such a
> curiosity?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry Miller
> (Not the other Larry)
        
        
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