Re: [SI-LIST] : best si tool

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From: Perry Qu (perry.qu@alcatel.com)
Date: Mon May 14 2001 - 10:01:02 PDT


Hi! David:

I'm interested in your comments about the 2D field solver in HSPICE. I did some
study on that and found that the dielectric loss calculated by HSPICE 2D field
solver is about half of the theoretical value. The version I used is 99.4. I
reported the problem to Avant! but did not get any feedback yet. Any similar
observations from your experience ?

And one more question, what does HPSPICE do that HSPICE does not ? Better
handling of frequency dependent effect of losses ? Not sure whether HPSPICE is
a standalone tool or associated with ADS/MDS.

Thanks

Perry Qu

David Kaiser wrote:

> I think what your asking for is a list of tools to get started with.
>
> Here is a short list of the ones I'm familiar with.
>
> - Avanti's HSPICE simulation tool
> - Hyperlinx simulation tool
> - Ansoft's Maxwell 2D field solver
> - APSIM 2D field solver
>
> HPSPICE will be necessary for Gbit and above.
> HPSICE comes with an internal 2D field solver, but if you working with 1GHz
> and above, you'll, I have found the after market 2D field solves listed
> above to be more accurate.
> Hyperlinx is fine up to 100s of MHz.
>
> I'm sure there is more out there, but these are the ones I'm familiar with.
>
> David Kaiser
> McDATA Corp.
> 310 Interlocken Pkwy.
> Broomfield, CO 80021
> (303) 460-4431
> david.kaiser@mcdata.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ingraham, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Ingraham@compaq.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:12 AM
> To: si-list@silab.eng.sun.com; 'v r'
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : best si tool
>
> > can anyone please tell me which is the best SI tool available in the
> > market.
>
> The best tool? Simple. Your brain.
>
> Use it well.
>
> Andy
>
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