Re: [SI-LIST] : SpecctraQuest Vs. XTK/XNS

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From: Michael Nudelman (mnudelman@tellium.com)
Date: Thu Nov 09 2000 - 06:48:39 PST


Chris,

I am actually inquring here; I worked with HL/OrCAD interface in the past; I never
tried it with VB yet - it is my goal to find out how to and whether?

Christoph Hillen wrote:

> Mike and all others,
>
> It seems that you used HL with Expedition PCB.
> Did you ever had problems with the interface?
> I'm just trying to export pcb data to a *.hyp-file. (The Interface is the Report
> Writer and the hlynx.exe file, right?)
> But what I get in HL when I import this file are some nice squares, the traces
> are not shown and they do not have the correct number of pins.
>
> Had anyone of you similar problems? What is the solution??
> Yet I didn't get any answer from HL...
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
> Christoph Hillen
> Utimaco Safeware AG
> Germany
>
> Michael Nudelman <mnudelman@tellium.com> on 08.11.2000 19:41:00
>
> Please respond to Michael Nudelman <mnudelman@tellium.com>
>
> To: griff_derryberry@mentorg.com, OITALIA@aol.com, "Dunbar, Tony"
> <tony_dunbar@mentorg.com>, Arie Mencher <ariem@optixnetworks.com>, "May,
> John" <John.May@fci.com>, Todd Westerhoff
> <twester@hammerheadnetworks.com>, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
> cc: (bcc: Christoph Hillen/Aachen/Utimaco/DE)
>
> Subject: [SI-LIST] : SpecctraQuest Vs. XTK/XNS
>
> Thanks for reply all of you, guys.
>
> I'll try to answer with some extra information:
>
> Todd, Arie, John, Tony, Griff, OJ:
>
> I'm using Veribest, SCH capture and Layout (I mean, our layout group is
> using their Layout tools).
>
> That is why it is crucial the tool would work with VB output.
>
> My signals are in two categories: 1) digital, CPU interface/clock trype
> (so far up to 50MHz) and 2)Hi-speed, 2.5GHz, mostly difpairs.
> And, honestly, with 2.5 GHz being point-to-point diffpairs and not
> having much problems with them so far, it is mostly mundane 50MHz types
> I'm trying to look at, though, of course, I'd like it to be full
> spectrum analyzer.
>
> Working with HyperLynx and with lots of digital boards over the time, I
> found, that what matters most for me is the tool being convenient,
> intuitive and powerful in the sense "can do all quick'n'easy without
> busting your you know what about procuring unprocurable information
> etc." The precision of the simulation though important, as strange as it
> might sound is not #1 priority as long as it is not "minus 100%"
> precision type. Jokes apart - well, 10% inaccuracy with MPC860 designs
> would not be a showstopper - the device would work reliably and pass
> EMI.
> Of course, "free precision" is welcome :-))))
>
> What I liked about HL - at the time missing the manual, I was able to
> start working with it on my own and quick enough.
> If you miss IBIS models (at least 3 years ago I had difficulties
> obtaining them from quite a few vendors) - it would give you a
> quick'n'dirty substitutes that would give you fair idea what you are to
> expect.
>
> Griff:
>
> I just talked with Veribest (Mentor) salesman. The ICX is a Mentor's
> instrument, that is not yet integrated in the VB and is expected to be
> there by the end of the year. The salesman did not even have pricing or
> anything to say about it - he said, it was undetermined ath this time.
> It is supposed to complement the SignalVision that is a part of the VB,
> but has some bug that prtecludes it from working with signals over
> 500MHz.
>
> And, yes - I'm considering it.
>
> If anyone has contact names in all the mentioned companies - would help
> me a lot.
>
> Thanks again for your quick responses. Mike.
>
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