RE: [SI-LIST] : HSPICE and XTK

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From: Todd Westerhoff (toddw@cadence.com)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2000 - 08:25:23 PDT


And, the IBIS support status for Cadence is listed incorrectly, by the way. We support IBIS 3.2.

Todd.

At 02:03 PM 7/31/2000 -0400, Chuck Reynolds wrote:
>Mike - be careful - there seems to be a lot of missing info on that chart. I
>would contact each vendor indiviually and check with major corporations like
>SUN, COMPAQ and IBM to see what they use.
>
>chuck
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
>[mailto:owner-si-list@silab.eng.sun.com]On Behalf Of Haller, Robert
>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:10 AM
>To: 'Michael Khusid'
>Cc: 'si-list@silab.eng.sun.com'
>Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : HSPICE and XTK
>
>
> Mike,
> Would you buy a car before you test drove it ?
>There are many good simulators available. I would recommend doing some
>research, you might try;
> http://www.scs.ch/~andrew/hsdd/simulation_tools.html there are alot of
>other good places too.
>Narrow the field down to a few you want to test drive, then obtain demo
>copies of the software from your local rep. You will learn a lot going
>through the exercise, and usually the best attention/support is a pre-sales
>evaluation.
>
>regards,
>Bob haller
>
>Cereva Networks
>3 Network Drive
>Marlboro MA. 01752
>Phone: 508-486-9660 X 365
>FAX: 508-486-9661
>Email: rhaller@cereva.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Khusid [mailto:mkhusid@sitaranetworks.com]
>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:04 AM
>To: si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
>Subject: [SI-LIST] : HSPICE and XTK
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I am currently looking to get myself some signal integrity software and I
>keep hearing wonderful things about Innoveda's XTK and bad things about
>Avanti! Hspice (see below). Is it really true? Is XTK really that wonderful?
>I will be simulating traces on boards, will XTK be able to successfully run
>a multi-board simulation? Will I have problems converting vendor's IBIS
>models into XTK format? What about translating board layout into lossy line
>models inside XTK? What about converting SPICE connector models in XTK
>format? Are there any caveats to using XTK?
>
>Thanks in advance to everyone.
>
>Mike Khusid
>Sitara Networks
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mellitz, Richard [mailto:richard.mellitz@intel.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:48 PM
> > To: 'Alex March'; si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
> > Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : W element with field solver model in HSPICE
> >
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > Try 1 mil! And see what happens. The W Elements are broke in
> > the CD version
> > of HSPICE 1999.4. A fixed one was available from Avanti!. I
> > haven't tried
> > out 2000.2 yet.
> >
> > Also the HSPICE 2-D field solver compares well with most
> > other field solvers
> > as far as RLCG go. However the Rs value is around 20-30% too low.
> >
> > Rich Mellitz
> > Intel
> >
>
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