RE: [SI-LIST] : Ferrite Beads

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From: Bill Owsley ([email protected])
Date: Thu Nov 16 2000 - 13:22:13 PST


Folks, Dilpreet has tossed out a well baited hook - who will bite ??
ps. 'tis not a simple hook, tho' the bait looks that way.

At 10:33 AM 11/16/2000 -0800, Dilpreet Saini wrote:
>Thanks Allen. I have a fairly good idea about ground bounce. What I was
>not sure about was "why having a ferrite in series with GND would cause
>ground bounce"
>
>regards,
>Dilpreet
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Allen Fernandez [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:28 AM
>To: Dilpreet Saini; '[email protected]'
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Ferrite Beads
>
>
>Dilpreet,
>
>Doug Brooks has some excellent articles about ground bounce in his
>"Brookspeak Articles". Goto :
>
>http://www.ultracad.com/articles.htm
>
>and look for "Ground Bounce, Parts 1 and 2".
>
>Also, if you have "High-Speed Digital Design : A Handbook of Black Magic",
>by Dr.Johnson and Dr.Graham, there's an excellent explanation of ground
>bounce starting on page 67 (section 2.4.1.1).
>
>--Allen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dilpreet Saini [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:26 PM
>To: '[email protected]'
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Ferrite Beads
>
>
>Hi Marc,
> Can you please comment a little bit more on Why would a ferrite in
>series with GND cause the ground bounce.
>
>regards,
>Dilpreet
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 4:41 AM
>To: Dilpreet Saini; [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : Ferrite Beads
>
>
> From experience, a ferrite in series with GND will cause a ground bounce on
>the board. If you're using DC coupled signals to other circuits in the
>system, these signals will see their reference point change.
>
>-Marc Godbout
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dilpreet Saini [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:45 PM
> > To: SI List (E-mail)
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] : Ferrite Beads
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > In the past I have used ferrite beads for transient and
> > parasitic suppression of the supply (VCC) coming into the
> > board. So far I have never used ferrite beads in series with
> > the GND trace/plane. I was wondering do any of you have any
> > experience using ferrite beads in that scenario.
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > regards,
> > Dilpreet
>
>
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