RE: [SI-LIST] : EMI due to fans

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From: Boris Yost ([email protected])
Date: Thu Oct 12 2000 - 09:36:18 PDT


Have you considered that you may be collecting EMI (measured as jitter) by
your probing that is not really in the circuit under test?

Boris

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sunil Kumar
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:37 PM
To: Patrick Lawler
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] : EMI due to fans

I have tried that also. No change.

Sunil

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Patrick Lawler wrote:

> How about vibration-induced problems? Can you mechanically isolate the
fan
> and check the result?
> I remember working on RF transmitters & receivers that were microphonic.
>
> But now this is getting out of my area of expertise ...
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:05:00 +0500 (GMT+0500), Sunil Kumar
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Yes, DC fans are being used. I have already tried that. I had powered up
> >fans from separate power supply. But still I did see increase in jitter.
> >
> >
> >Sunil
> >
> >On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Patrick Lawler wrote:
> >
> >> If a DC fan is being used, the pulsating current load current may be
> >> feeding back through the power supply into the logic circuitry.
> >> This applies whether the fan is brush or brushless.
> >>
> >> If this is your situation, try powering the fan from a separate power
> >> supply to see if the symptom goes away.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:41:55 +0500 (GMT+0500), Sunil Kumar
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >I am measuring cycle-to-cycle jitter in clock in a system, where clock
> >> >(PECL, 50MHz) is going from one PCB (card) to other through twinax
> >> >cable. In the second card clock is converted into TTL and then
distributed
> >> >to various ICs. I am looking at the clock just before the PECL-to-TTL
> >> >convertor. Both the cards are in the same backplane. The system is
> >> >equiped with a set of fans for cooling, which are kept below the card
> >> >frame. Now what I have observed is, when the fans are not on, jitter
is
> >> >much much less in comparision of the jitter when fans are on. I think,
the
> >> >fans are generating EMI, which is disturbing the planes in the
backplane
> >> >and the cards, and hence jitter is increased. Any explanations?
> >> >
> >> >One more thing which I have observed is, the PECL-to-PECL clock
> >> >fanout buffer (no PLL inside) is reducing jiiter (with fans off), i.e.
> >> >jitter at input is more than that at output. Can anybody explain this?
> >> >
> >> >Is there any PECL-to-TTL clock fanout buffer which adds very low
> >> >jitter? The PECL-to-TTL buffer which I am using, is adding lot's of
> >> >jitter.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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