Q1. You need to limit the crosstalk. Barring purchase of a crosstalk analysis
tool, you can estimate the worst case crosstalk as:
CT = 1 / ( 1 + ( x/h )^ 2 ), where x is the center to center distance between
parallel traces on the same layer, and h is the distance from the center of the
signal etch to the center of the nearest reflection plane, sic where the
opposing return current flows.
For example, if you have 5 mils between a given signal layer and the nearest
ground plane, then your edge-coupled crosstalk will not get worse than 10% for
15 mil spacing. Broad-face crosstalk is similar, replacing x with the height
between adjacent signal layers. Assuming that you have packed most traces on
10 mil centers, then you can route one extra phantom trace between the address
block, and data block to maintain a total of 20 mils, which will yield x/h of
1/4, or a crosstalk of 1/17, < 6%. You can use the same technique for clocks,
and any other signal which will be used to set timing.
The signals which remain close together may exhibit crosstalk as high as 20% if
the traces run parallel for much more than 1/2 wavelength. This will affect
your flight time calculations as adjacent signals which switch to opposing
states will take longer to settle.
In crude terms, each line acts as a winding in a pulse transformer both
inducing current into the adjacent trace, and receiving current from the
adjacent trace. This reduces the current available to charge the capacitance
along the line, increasing the time before the far-end matches the near-end.
If you are pushing frequency limits, you either need decent analysis software,
your design will be overly conservative, or your design will be risky.
Q2.
Allegro software will attempt to distribute the serpentine so as to minimize
the antennae efficiency of the serpentine. If your board layout house has
Allegro, then specify the required matching paths and let the software do most
of the work.
When you push all the serpentine turns together, you make a mini, phased-array
antenna which is not going to make your EMC engineer happy. Each of the edges
where the serpentine turns can emit pretty efficiently.
The degree of coupling on a susceptor trace is the integral of the field from
the agressor trace(s). In simple terms, the longer a parallel route you have
between two traces, the greater the coupling. So, the answer to c) is really
the same as Q1. If you want coupling to remain under 10% between different
serpentine signals then you need to separate by same 3X the height to the
reflection plane as you would for straight traces.
If you are asking about the coupling between segments of one serpentine, the
answer is that you do get both some signal degradation and increased delay over
just the path length due to the coupling between opposing segments. How much
depends on how long each segment is, and how close together you put them. For
trace length adjustments of a few inches, this is not generally a problem.
That is because each segment is generally much shorter than 1/2 of the shortest
wavelength in your signal. If you have a 500pS risetime signal, at 200pS /
inch, the risetime covers 2.5" of trace. With a maximally tight pattern, keep
your segments much shorter, so that the coupled segments do not cover a
significant part of the rise time. The alternative is to separate the segments
more to weaken the coupling.
You may be able to do better than these estimates, but a more accurate answer
needs at least a 2D solver. Limited capability solvers such as Polar
Instruments can be found for as little as $500 - $1000. More sophisticated
product is available from folks like Hyperlynx for around $10,000, or you can
mortgage property and buy a complex suite from Viewlogic, or InCases, etc. with
commensurate training requirements.
Regards,
Steve.
At 11:41 AM 7/20/99 +0800, you wrote:
>
> I have two questions which I hope you experts out there can enlighten me.
>
> Q1 : For years books have indicated that address and data bus must be routed
> perpendicular to each other on different layers. However, with board getting
> smaller and high component count, it will be a luxury to do so, isn't it? As
> such, can I :
>
> (a) Route address and data bus side by side on the same layer.
> (b) If yes, how far apart must the address and data bus be separated.
> (c) If no, can they be routed parallel to each other on adjacent layer.
> (d) If no, can they be routed parallel to each other 2 layers away.
> (e) How much clearance must be there for (b).
> I would appreciate reasons or explanations be given for the answers to the
> above questions.
>
> Q2 : What is being practice is to route all clock signals with equal length
> and no via (if possible) on a layer dedicated for them. This is acheived by
> using those serpentine routing pattern. Can I :
>
> (a) Start to introduce the serpentine routing pattern at the outputs.
> (b) If yes, will there be any coupling between them.
> (c) If no, how far apart must the next serpentine pattern be formed.
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> Regards.
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Q1. You need to limit the crosstalk. Barring purchase of a
crosstalk analysis tool, you can estimate the worst case crosstalk
as:
CT = 1 / ( 1 + ( x/h )^ 2 ), where x is the center to center distance
between parallel traces on the same layer, and h is the distance from the
center of the signal etch to the center of the nearest reflection plane,
sic where the opposing return current flows.
For example, if you have 5 mils between a given signal layer and the
nearest ground plane, then your edge-coupled crosstalk will not get worse
than 10% for 15 mil spacing. Broad-face crosstalk is similar,
replacing x with the height between adjacent signal layers.
Assuming that you have packed most traces on 10 mil centers, then you can
route one extra phantom trace between the address block, and data block
to maintain a total of 20 mils, which will yield x/h of 1/4, or a
crosstalk of 1/17, < 6%. You can use the same technique for
clocks, and any other signal which will be used to set timing.
The signals which remain close together may exhibit crosstalk as high as
20% if the traces run parallel for much more than 1/2 wavelength.
This will affect your flight time calculations as adjacent signals which
switch to opposing states will take longer to settle.
In crude terms, each line acts as a winding in a pulse transformer both
inducing current into the adjacent trace, and receiving current from the
adjacent trace. This reduces the current available to charge the
capacitance along the line, increasing the time before the far-end
matches the near-end.
If you are pushing frequency limits, you either need decent analysis
software, your design will be overly conservative, or your design will be
risky.
Q2.
Allegro software will attempt to distribute the serpentine so as to
minimize the antennae efficiency of the serpentine. If your board
layout house has Allegro, then specify the required matching paths and
let the software do most of the work.
When you push all the serpentine turns together, you make a mini,
phased-array antenna which is not going to make your EMC engineer
happy. Each of the edges where the serpentine turns can emit pretty
efficiently.
The degree of coupling on a susceptor trace is the integral of the field
from the agressor trace(s). In simple terms, the longer a parallel
route you have between two traces, the greater the coupling. So,
the answer to c) is really the same as Q1. If you want coupling to
remain under 10% between different serpentine signals then you need to
separate by same 3X the height to the reflection plane as you would for
straight traces.
If you are asking about the coupling between segments of one serpentine,
the answer is that you do get both some signal degradation and increased
delay over just the path length due to the coupling between opposing
segments. How much depends on how long each segment is, and how
close together you put them. For trace length adjustments of a few
inches, this is not generally a problem. That is because each
segment is generally much shorter than 1/2 of the shortest wavelength in
your signal. If you have a 500pS risetime signal, at 200pS / inch,
the risetime covers 2.5" of trace. With a maximally tight
pattern, keep your segments much shorter, so that the coupled segments do
not cover a significant part of the rise time. The alternative is
to separate the segments more to weaken the coupling.
You may be able to do better than these estimates, but a more accurate
answer needs at least a 2D solver. Limited capability solvers such
as Polar Instruments can be found for as little as $500 - $1000.
More sophisticated product is available from folks like Hyperlynx for
around $10,000, or you can mortgage property and buy a complex suite from
Viewlogic, or InCases, etc. with commensurate training
requirements.
Regards,
Steve.
At 11:41 AM 7/20/99 +0800, you wrote:
I have
two questions which I hope you experts out there can enlighten me.
Q1 : For years books have indicated
that address and data bus must be routed perpendicular to each other on
different layers. However, with board getting smaller and high component
count, it will be a luxury to do so, isn't it? As such, can I :
(a) Route address and data bus side
by side on the same layer.
(b) If yes, how far apart must the
address and data bus be separated.
(c) If no, can they be routed
parallel to each other on adjacent layer.
(d) If no, can they be routed
parallel to each other 2 layers away.
(e) How much clearance must be there
for (b).
I would appreciate reasons or
explanations be given for the answers to the above questions.
Q2 : What is being practice is to
route all clock signals with equal length and no via (if possible) on a
layer dedicated for them. This is acheived by using those serpentine
routing pattern. Can I :
(a) Start to introduce the
serpentine routing pattern at the outputs.
(b) If yes, will there be any
coupling between them.
(c) If no, how far apart must the
next serpentine pattern be formed.
_ _ _
I I I I I I
I I I I I I
______ I I_I I_I I_____
_ _ _
I I I I I I
I I I I I I
______I I_I I_I I_____
Hope to hear from anyone of you and thanks in advance.
Regards.
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