# Re: [SI-LIST] : Equivalent ckt of coupling/via parasitics

From: Mike Jenkins ([email protected])
Date: Thu Mar 22 2001 - 18:02:09 PST

Hassan,

I would argue that, by symmetry, there would be ZERO coupling
between the single-ended line (5-6) and a differential signal
on lines 1 and 2. Common mode coupling would occur, of course.
Also, differential coupling would occur to the extent that
there were asymmetries.

Regards,
Mike

ps: Nice character graphics!

Hassan Ali wrote:
>
> Below is a poor sketch of a differential pair routed around a via in one
> layer of a PCB, call it Layer2. The via routes a single-ended signal from
> Layer1 (above Layer2) to Layer3 (below Layer2). I need to compute the
> crosstalk between the diff-pair and the single-ended signal. To do that, I
> have to obtain the equivalent circuit that takes into account self
> parasitics of the via and the coupling between the via and the diff-pair.
> Does anybody know how this equivalent circuit should be? I'd also appreciate
> it if someone can show me how to accurately compute all the parameters of
> the equivalent circuit.
>
> single-ended signal (from
> node 5 to node 6 thru the via)
> 3 4 5 ____________
> | | ||
> | | ---------- ||------------ gnd
> plane
> /via \ diff-pair ||via
> 5 ---|--0---|----- 6 normal to screen 1.||.2
> \ / ___________ ||____________ gnd
> plane
> | | ||
> | | diff pair ||
> 1 2 (line1 from node 1 to 3) ---------- 6
> (line2 from node 2 to 4)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Hassan.
>
> **** To unsubscribe from si-list or si-list-digest: send e-mail to
> [email protected] In the BODY of message put: UNSUBSCRIBE
> si-list or UNSUBSCRIBE si-list-digest, for more help, put HELP.
> si-list archives are accessible at http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu
> ****

```--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Jenkins               Phone: 408.433.7901            _____
LSI Logic Corp, ms/G715      Fax: 408.433.7495        LSI|LOGIC| (R)
1525 McCarthy Blvd.       mailto:[email protected]        |     |
Milpitas, CA  95035         http://www.lsilogic.com      |_____|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
**** To unsubscribe from si-list or si-list-digest: send e-mail to
[email protected] In the BODY of message put: UNSUBSCRIBE
si-list or UNSUBSCRIBE si-list-digest, for more help, put HELP.
si-list archives are accessible at  http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu
****
```

This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Thu Jun 21 2001 - 10:11:18 PDT