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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:32:57 -0500
From: "George, W5YR" <w5yr at att.net>
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Service
To: Dave Sergeant <dsergeant at connectfree.co.uk>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re:REV operation

The REV switch function is one of the most valuable and useful switches on
the K2!

Situation: you are working split, transmitting on A and listening to the
Fox on B. When the fox turns it over, you want to listen around your own
transmitting frequency to see who he went back to and where they are. Just
push and hold the REV button and now you are listening on A and can tune
around, while holding the button down, to find the frequency you want to
use to call the Fox next. Release the button and make your call on A and
listen on B as before. Quick and easy . . .

The Icom 756PRO has a similar button and it has proved invaluable in Fox
Hunting. I was delighted to find that the K2 also provides this function.

Ooops! Gave away a Fox Hunting secret!    <:}

73/72, George    
Amateur Radio W5YR -  the Yellow Rose of Texas
In the 57th year and it just keeps getting better!
Fairview, TX 30 mi NE of Dallas in Collin county EM13qe
K2 #489      Icom IC-765 #2349     Icom IC-756 PRO  #2121


Dave Sergeant wrote:
> 
> On 14 Oct 2002 at 4:01, GW4JUN wrote:

> I cannot really see the point of it.  I use A/B extensively in pile
> ups working split and am adept at this.  Apart from saving key pushes
> there does not really seem any point.
> 
> But I can confirm that my REV switch works quite normally - the S
> meter follows the signal on the appropriate VFO apart from a short
> delay while the AGC settles.

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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:22:55 -0700
From: Vic Rosenthal <rakefet at rakefet.com>
Organization: Transparent Software
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re:REV operation

"George, W5YR" wrote:
> 
> Just
> push and hold the REV button and now you are listening on A and can tune
> around, while holding the button down, to find the frequency you want to
> use to call the Fox next. Release the button and make your call on A and
> listen on B as before. Quick and easy . . .

But too slow.  I've found that in pileups I prefer to hit the A/B button twice
to check on the QSX frequency because I don't like waiting for the Hold function
to kick in.  I wish there were a real instantaneous push-to-reverse function
(but that would require a dedicated button, of course).

Vic K2VCO

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Reply-To: <rondec at easystreet.com>
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <rondec at easystreet.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Re:REV operation
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:16:35 -0700

I hit A/B twice too, finding it faster than press-and-hold and if I want
to zero beat a station that I intended to "tail end" when the QSO
finishes I find it easier to tune without having to hold the button
down. Indeed, although I run SPLIT as my standard operating mode at all
times, I have used REV so seldom that I missed the point of the original
message! 

Ron AC7AC
K2#1289

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... I've found that in pileups I prefer to hit the A/B button twice to
check on the QSX frequency because I don't like waiting for the Hold
function to kick in.  I wish there were a real instantaneous
push-to-reverse function (but that would require a dedicated button, of
course).

Vic K2VCO

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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:12:49 -0500
From: "George, W5YR" <w5yr at att.net>
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Service
To: rondec at easystreet.com
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re:REV operation

Interesting how operating habits develop and prevail . . .

I got started using what you are calling the Hold approach with my Icom
PRO. I now have gotten that method so ingrained into my operating
procedures that I hardly ever operate any other way. Fox Hunts, in
partcular, are made infinitely easier for me by having that little button
on the PRO to hold with one finger while I twiddle the tuning knob with my
thumb looking for the best place from which to pounce.

So, I will have to try both ways on the K2 and see which I prefer. Thanks
for adding a new dimension to my operating methods!   <:}

-- snip --

73/72, George    
Amateur Radio W5YR -  the Yellow Rose of Texas
In the 57th year and it just keeps getting better!
Fairview, TX 30 mi NE of Dallas in Collin county EM13qe
K2 #489      Icom IC-765 #2349     Icom IC-756 PRO  #2121

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:52:09 -0600
To: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker at cs.utexas.edu>, tlogan7 at cox.net
From: Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?= <n0ss at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it! Thanks!
Cc: WA9GQT at aol.com, Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>

Hi Ken:

Great to have you on the reflector!

>Tim (NZ7C) wrote:
> > Totally cool! I read your email...went to the rig...
> >set split for 14024 and 14025.9 and got a response
> >from CY0MM on my first transmit!!!
>
> >I finally understand it! Thank you.
>
>You should find a copy of W9KNI's _Complete DXer_.  It is an excellent,
>easy-to-read tutorial on how to find and work DX.  Much of the book
>is written as a first-person perspective of W9KNI sitting down in front
>of his radio and describing in detail what steps he goes through, and
>what decisions he makes, in finding DX to work.  Some of it is a little
>dated (it was written a little before transceivers were common, so there is
>some discussion about making sure your transmitter is on the same
>frequency as your receiver, plus it really predates the DX Cluster
>phenomenon) but it's still quite good.
>
>You might be able to borrow a copy from someone in your local club, or
>you can get a copy through Amazon:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0961757701/ct1bohwebsiteA/104-0011435-1796743

And Bob HAS the credentials to back his words up, too. Since building his 
K2 a couple years ago, he's now worked OVER 300 DXCC ENTITIES with his K2 
at 5W...!

One 'feature' about the K2 which some may not have latched onto quite yet 
is that, when operating SPLIT, it's sometimes pretty easy to get caught 
(using the [REV] button to find the guy the DX s working) accidently 
releasing the REV button WHILE you're tuning. This results in your having 
accidently tuned the WRONG VFO and moved it off of the DX's frequency.

This is also a common accident with many other rigs as well.

Well, to combat this problem, Elecraft offers the DIAL [LOCK] button, just 
to the lower right of the VFO knob. This LOCKS the displayed frequency, so 
you can't accidently tune away from the selected frequency.

"OK", you say. "That's nice, but then HOW can I tune the alternate VFO so I 
can find the guy who is WORKING the DX?"

Simple! WHILE in SPLIT _and_ WHILE the DIAL LOCK is in force, if you press 
the [REV] button, it will switch you over to the alternate VFO _and_ it 
will allow you to tune THAT VFO, even though the main VFO is LOCKed down 
tight.

As a result, you have the best of both worlds, a VFO solidly planted on the 
DX's frequency, and a TUNABLE VFO for finding who he's working or for 
positioning yourself in the most beneficial spot to call the DX the next 
time he goes back in to 'listen' mode. Even if you happen to accidently let 
go of the [REV] button WHILE you're still tuning the alternate VFO, the 
LOCKED VFO will not move!

This feature works LIKE A CHAMP, and users should avail themselves of it often.

Using the [REV] button one can quickly and easily jump 'up' to the 'pileup' 
and see who's calling the DX, where they are locating themselves when they 
DO work him, and whether the DX station is working multiple stations on the 
SAME frequency, or whether he's possibly moving his receive VFO up (or 
down) just a bit following each successive QSO. Getting the 'feel' of the 
DX station's operating habits significantly increases your chances of 
working him.

Bob's book discusses MANY other, tried and true methods of finding and 
working DX. A great book.

If anyone had questions about the SPLIT LOCKED VFO, or how to use it, 
please feel free to drop me a note.

73,

Tom Hammond   N0SS

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