+++++++++++++++++ Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:57:28 +0100 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: "Steve Wilson, G3VMW" Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - 40m chirp I've recently built the KPA-100 PA for my K2 #1509. Everything went together without too many problems and I soon had the KPA-100 bolted into the K2 and producing 100W of RF. On 40m, I started getting very bad keying reports - chirp and leading edge clicks. I took a listen on another rig and sure enough, the K2 sounded pretty awful. I thought at first that it was something to do with the KPA-100, but it wasn't! The basic K2 was chirpy and nasty, but only on 40m. It sounded fine everywhere else, perhaps with the exception of 24 MHz where I noticed some very slight chirp. Further checks showed that the K2 sounded OK on about 6.8 MHz and absolutely dreadful on 7.3 MHz. The chirp and "ploppy" click on the CW signal at 7.3 MHz was beyond belief. What could be wrong? Well, a quick check of the VCO voltages at the left hand end of R30 revealed the following: 7.000 MHz = 3.91 volts and 7.300 MHz = 7.2 volts on 80m (3.525 MHz), where the CW keying sounded perfect, the VCO voltages were as follows: 3.500 MHz = 1.854 volts and 4.000 MHz 6.0 volts The K2 was within specification for the basic VCO alignment (P. 58 in the K2 manual) but sounded awful on 40m CW. I consulted Gary Surrency at Elecraft support - and got some very useful help and advice. The problem isn't unheard of in a few K2s. If the VCO voltage on 40m is too high, or is much more than 5 volts, the VCO may require too long to settle during T-R switching or Split VFO operation. This can cause chirp on the transmitted signal, especially above 7.2 MHz. In my case, the chirp was present at 7.025 MHz and was especially objectionable. The cure is to lower the VCO voltage to 5 volts or less. This was achieved by removing C70 (4.7pF) which is only used on 40m and in my case by padding C72, with a 10pF capacitor in parallel - soldered to the underside of the PCB. As Gary Surrency says "I prefer to see VCO voltages towards the lower side on all bands, so there is no chirp on 40m at the high end of the band. Adding more capacitance to C72 should accomplish this, since the combined L of T5/L30 will then need to be set lower and that will lower the VCO voltage on all other bands. I check and set up all rigs I work on this way, and shoot for 5 volts or less on 7.300 MHz on 40m." Here are the VCO voltages on my K2 BEFORE and AFTER I removed C70 and added 10pF across C72. T30 has be realigned to provide the 6.0 volts reference on 4.0 MHz. BEFORE ------ 80m 3.5 = 1.85 4.0 = 6.00 40m 7.0 = 3.91 7.3 = 7.20 30m 10.0 = 3.87 10.15 = 4.56 20m 14.0 = 3.31 15.00 = 5.46 17m 18.0 = 4.41 18.20 = 4.68 15m 21.0 = 3.14 21.45 = 4.62 12m 24.8 = 5.39 25.00 = 5.88 10m 28.0 = 4.64 28.80 = 5.80 AFTER ----- 80m 3.5 = 1.78 4.0 = 6.00 40m 7.0 = 1.73 7.3 = 3.43 30m 10.0 = 2.92 10.15 = 3.47 20m 14.0 = 2.77 15.00 = 4.67 17m 18.0 = 3.90 18.20 = 4.16 15m 21.0 = 2.46 21.45 = 3.69 12m 24.8 = 4.61 25.00 = 5.06 10m 28.0 = 4.12 28.80 = 5.21 Gary Surrency's "Close to Ideal Values" --------------------------------------- 80m 3.5 = 2.67 4.0 = 6.00 40m 7.0 = 2.22 7.3 = 4.25 30m 10.0 = 2.89 10.15 = 3.42 20m 14.0 = 2.60 15.00 = 4.33 17m 18.0 = 3.48 18.20 = 3.70 15m 21.0 = 2.33 21.45 = 3.46 12m 24.8 = 4.28 25.00 = 4.68 10m 28.0 = 3.68 28.80 = 4.61 Since I did the modification, I have had good reports on 40m CW with the K2 and KPA-100 with no chirp or click reported. I especially like the RS-232 interface on the new KPA-100, which I've managed to interface to my Turbolog logging program. You might like to take a close listen to the keying on your K2. I have to say that the jury is out on the keying characteristics of the K2. Some people think it is good, but I have heard some bad reports too. Maybe those K2s were a bit like mine? 73 Steve Wilson G3VMW Bramham, Wetherby, West Yorkshire Email: g3vmw at bramham.demon.co.uk Web page: http://www.dxtech.co.uk ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:05:25 +0100 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: dk4lx Subject: [Elecraft] Watery,scratchy,chirpy sound Hi everybody, I've been a happy user of K2 #2626 for a week now. One thing I'd like to alert you to is the sound of the rig which may sometimes be a little watery, even scratchy or worse. Initially I got very nice feedback on the quality of my sigs. But when I met this brutally honest German radio pal of mine (thanks again guy), I knew I had a problem. Especially since another om immediately recognized me by my CW note before I had even menttioned my call. Apparently my sigs were slightly scatchy and watery, not much of a problem, but, yes, noticeable and irksome - at least to me, hi. So something had to be wrong. Thank God I had been diligently reading this reflector and remembered Steve's (G3VMW) mail addressing what seemed to me a similar problem. Apparently, it is critical to ensure your VCO voltage readings are within the limits specified on page 58 of the manual! 40m is especially susceptible to develop a problem, if the voltage on 7.300 Mhz is >7.5 volts. Mine was at 8.21 volts, which initially didn't set me worrying because, living in the old world, I was only concerned about the 7.1 Mhz value, which was o.k. Even before buying the K2, I had noticed quite a few K2s to have this peculiar watery sound. What helped in my case was the mod suggested by G3VMW per reflector mail of 2 Jul 02: a) remove CAP C70 (4.7pF) b) pad CAP C72 with a 10pF cap in parallel soldered on the bottom of the PCB. Another thing: to all those who currently building their K2s I would strongly recommend the mod concerning the grounding of the xtal filters 7-11 which is also available as .pdf file on the Elecraft website. Ground each crystal from both (small) sides with short ground leads. Solder them in the lower half of the small side area and not on top of the cans. This seems to improve filter rejection considerably - and audibly. 73, Holger, DK4LX K2 #2626 ___________________________ Holger Matthiessen Hosenfeld/nr Frankfurt LOC: JO40RM email: dk4lx at darc.de PostMe 3.02 ++++++++++++++++++