Yaesu FT-470 MODS
This is a collection of hardware and software mods for the Yaesu 470.
I think this list is fairly complete.
SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS CAN DAMAGE YOUR RADIO IF YOU PERFORM
THEM IMPROPERLY. WHEN IN DOUBT, DO NOT PERFORM THE MODIFICATION.
This advice is free, so remember that you get what you pay for.
Full Reset:
Effect: Severe! :-)
1) Make hard (paper) copy of all memory info
2) Turn radio off
3) Hold down VFO and MR and turn radio on
4) Replace all memory contents
Notes: This will reset the auto repeater offset function, so you will need to re-enable it if you use it.
This will also disable (mask) all memories except #1, so you will have to enable each of them by hand.
Attributed: Yaesu
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MARS Mod:
Effect: Enable extended 2m receive, 2m transmit
1) Make hard (paper) copy of all memory info
2) Turn radio off
3) Hold down up-arrow and down-arrow and turn radio on
4) Replace all memory contents
Notes: This mod wipes all memory contents. This is a "toggle" mod in that it can be un-done by repeating
the above steps.The normal->MARS mod only wipes the memories. The MARS-> normal mod not only
wipes the memories, it appears to do a complete controller reset (see above).
Result: Receive range 130-180 MHz, transmit 140-151MHz (I think, I haven't tried it.)
Attributed: Yaesu
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Crossband Repeat:
Effect: Enable crossband repeat
1) Dial up two frequencies you want to crosslink (be sure to pay attention to transmit offsets, if any)
2) Turn radio off.
3) Hold down the RPT key and turn radio on
Result: The tone encode/decode flags and the -+ flags will be flashing and the radio will be in low power mode.
When either band's squelch opens, the other band is moved into the primary frequency display and the transmitter keys.
Audio link appears to be speaker to mike.
Attributed: Collier Chun
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Crossband Repeat Audio Cable:
Effect: Provide better audio for crossband repeat.
1) Parts:
a) mini plug
b) 100K ohm resistor
c) sub-mini plug
2) Assemble cable with resistor connecting the tips of the two plugs. The shield (ground) is not connected.
3) Plug it between the earphone jack and the mike jack.
Result: Very good crossband audio. The level is controllable with the volume control.
Bugs: You can't listen to what is being repeated.
Attributed: Keith McQueen (N7HMF @ NV7V.UT.USA.NA)
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Clone Mode:
Effect: Allow editing of transmit and receive frequencies.
1) Turn radio off.
2) Hold down F key and turn radio on.
Result: All segments of display are turned on. The radio will send data out the microphone tip when up-arrow is
pressed. The radio will receive data when the down-arrow is pressed.
Bugs: I have yet to hear of someone who has done this successfully.
Attributed: [email protected] (William J. Szarek)
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Internal Jumper Mods:
Effect: Change radio from US to European to ???
Wide band receive
I have located a total of eight straps, four to the left of the lithium battery, and four others under the flat white
cable that interconnects the upper half with the lower half.
Yeasu FT-470 Straps
R69 Vertical, at the 10 o'clock position by the lithium cell
R68 Horizontal, to the lower left of R69
R67 Horizontal, just below R68
R66 Horizontal, just below R67
R71 Vertical, the leftmost of three, to the left of the upper corner of the ribbon cable connector.
R70 Vertical, the center of three of which R71 is the leftmost
R72 Vertical, the rightmost of the three
R74 Vertical, to the left of the ribbon cable connector, below the three. (Note that R74 is below an
unpopulated capacitor that does not have a C number.
There is no R73, or at least it is not on the circuit board and it is not in the schematic. And, yes, the order of those
three is indeed R71, R70, R72, left-to-right.
UHF CHOICES
R71, R70, R72, Rx and Tx ,Rx only
0 0 0 430 to 440 430 to 500
0 0 1 430 to 450
0 1 0 430 to 440
0 1 1 432 to 438
1 0 0 430 to 440**
1 0 1 220 to 225
1 1 0 430 to 440
1 1 1 210 to 235
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** This is the normal European configuration.
VHF CHOICES
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R66, R67, R68, R69, Rx and Tx, Rx only
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0 0 0 0 144 to 146 130 to 180
0 0 0 1 144 to 146
0 0 1 0 1260 to 1300
0 0 1 1 1240 to 1300
0 1 0 0 140 to 150* 130 to 180
0 1 0 1 140 to 174
0 1 1 0 303 to 343
0 1 1 1 8AL to 242
1 0 0 0 144 to 148
1 0 0 1 144 to 146**
1 0 1 0 1240 to 1300
1 0 1 1 404 to 444
1 1 0 0 140 to 160
1 1 0 1 1260 to 1300
1 1 1 0 101 to 141
1 1 1 1 1R3 to 158L
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* This is the normal US configuration after MARS mod.
** This is the normal European configuration.
(Note: the receive only ranges are enabled by powering up the unit with the up and down arrow buttons depressed.
When there is more than one combination which has the same frequency range, the difference is the default step size
and/or the default repeater offset. Of course, choices that do not match the VCO and filters do not actually transmit
or receive on those frequencies. A particularly strange example is that the VHF side of the set can be set to tune from
404 to 444 MHz, but again, it won't actually lock. Even in the 101-141 mode, the VHF VCO will not lock - this must
be for use with some other sort of VCO (It looks like this would cover the aeronautical band rather nicely.)
There are two really wierd VHF settings, those for 8AL-242 and 1R3-158L. These must be for use with some
other LCD controller - it displays truly unusual and non sequential thins when stepped through the "bands".
R74 seems to have something to do with selecting the IF frequency, or something similar. When set, it really screws
up the VHF reception. My technique for determining these straps is to remove the straps that come in the unit,
solder wires to each pad, the wires out of the unit to a bank of DIP switches, screw the unit back together,
and then go through all of the DIP switch combinations. I usually use a stereo microscope and 30 guage\ wire for this.
Since I didn't try powering the unit on with every combination of keys held down for each DIP switch
combination, there may still be other secrets possible. I was looking for something like receive and transmit from
zero to infinity, but I didn't find it. I determined, from studying the schematic, that there should be a hiddem strapping
diode from CPU pin 2 to CPU pin 22. I installed one, but nothing changed. In fact, changing it and powering the unit up
did not cause a reset. Therefore, I concluded that this really wasn't a mystery strap, afterall. However, there could be
others. I'm trying to get a data sheet for the CPU, from Hitachi, to see if any of the grounded pins are actually I/O pins
-- they might be good candidates, particularly if their traces are routed in such a way as to be easily accessible for cutting.
I've learned that one of the ways to get some of the other,new Yeasu handhelds to go out-of-band involves dumping
data out of the clone port, editing the data, and then dumping it back in. I called Yeasu and asked if the FT-470
could be cloned. They said no, so I ignored them. I haven't figured out how to get it to dump data, but I believe it
will accept data. The clone mode is entered by powering up the unit with the F key held down.
(It's also a neat way to see all of the indicators on the LCD!) The data must be presented in the ring ("right channel")
of a stereo 2.5 millimeter plug which is placed into the mic jack. This is cryptically marked on the schematic, anyway.
However, I have no idea what the format for the data should be. If you come across this, I'd love to know.
This may be the trap door to getting the rig to receive and transmit in more interesting places.
Attributed: Ed Boakes (WB3FLD)
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Software UHF Receive Expansion:
Effect: extend UHF Rx to 500MHz without shrinking Tx range
How: Trick 470 into accepting big number in U register. Caveat:
This mod acts differently on different radios.
1) Turn the beep on. (Some, perhaps all, 470's require that the key-press-beep function be on in order to do this.)
2) Program the frequency of 450.00 MHz simplex.
3) Set the repeater offset to zero (F/M RPT 0000) but DON'T get out of the set mode (don't hit RPT again).
4) Turn the radio off then back on.
5) Set a "+" offset (press RPT twice).
6) Press the REV button one time.
7) The radio should now display 1450 MHz.(The radio will not operate at these frequencies.
My service monitor shows that above 500 MHz the rx is very weak.)
8) Use the shifted down-arrow key to tune this frequency down to around 500 MHz (press F/M, press and hold
down-arrow). Yes, this takes a while.
9) Store this in the "U" memory. (press and hold F/M until you hear two beeps, rotate tuning knob until "U" appears
in upper left, press F/M again).
10) Reset the repeater offset to 5 MHz. (F/M RPT 0500 RPT)
Result: By selecting the "U" memory and the using the memory tune fuction (select "U" memory and then press MR),
you can tune to the desired frequency and then store it in another memory.
Bugs: Above 500 MHz, some radios will let you tune up and down in frequency, some won't
(they jump back to the ham band). Some radios will let you enter a frequency above 500 MHz on the keyboard
while in memory tune mode, some won't. Attributed: Darrell Sego KM9S
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Software Range Extention Tricks:
Effect: Force a non-standard frequency into a VFO, store this as an upper limit in the "U" or "L" memory.
Caveat: For these steps to work properly, I had to have "Beep" enabled and *NOT* have the "L" and "U"
memories locked out. Steps for setting the UPPER UHF limit to 500 MHz
1. Program the frequency for 430.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
2. Press F/M, then RPT for the offset.
3. Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
4. Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
5. Press RPT key twice for a "+" (plus) offset indication.
6. Press REV button once.
7. The radio should now display 1430.00 MHz.
8. Press F/M then hold the down-arrow key to lower the displayed frequency. Stop when 500.00 MHz is displayed.
9. Press RPT once to select simplex operation.
10. Press F/M and hold until you hear two beeps.
11. Rotate the (DIAL) knob until the channel "U" is displayed.
12. Press F/M again, you should hear a beep.
13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0500 (5 MHz repeater offset) then press RPT again.
- alternative procedure (faster but a little more complicated)
8. Press RPT twice to select the "-" repeater offset.
9. Press REV twice. Frequency shown should be 630.00 MHz.
10. Press F/M then hold the down-arrow key to lower the displayed frequency. Stop at 500.00 MHz.
11. Press RPT twice to select simplex operation.
12. Go back to #10 in previous list...
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Steps for setting the LOWER UHF limit to 400 MHz.
1. Program the frequency for 450.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
2. Press the F/M, then RPT for the offset.
3. Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
4. Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
5. Press RPT once (for a "-" (minus) indicated offset).
6. Press REV *THREE* times.
7. The radio should now display 050.00 MHz.
8. Press F/M, then hold the up-arrow key to increase the displayed frequency. Stop at 400 MHz.
9. Store this in the "L" memory. (See above steps...)
10. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0500 (5 MHz repeater offset) then press RPT again.
- alternative procedure - note: this short-cut requires you to enter 430.00 MHz in step 1.
5. Press RPT twice for a "+" (plus) indicated repeater offset.
6. Press REV once.
7. Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
8. Press REV once. You should have 1030.00 MHz displayed.
9. Press F/M and hold the down-arrow stopping at 999.00 MHz.
10. Press REV once. You should have 399.00 MHz displayed.
11. Press F/M, then hold the up-arrow) key to increase the displayed frequency. Stop at 400 MHz.
12. Press RPT twice to select simplex operation.
13. go back to #9 in previous list
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Steps for setting the UPPER VHF limit to 200 MHz.\
1. Program the frequency for 140.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
2. Press F/M, then RPT for the offset.
3. Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
4. Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on.
5. Press RPT twice (for a "+" (plus) indicated offset).
6. Press REV *ONE* time.
7. The radio should now display 1140.00 MHz.
8. Press F/M, then hold the down-arrow key to decrease the displayed frequency. Stop at 800 MHz.
9. Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
10. Press REV once. You should have 200.000 MHz displayed.
11. Press RPT twice to select simplex.
12. Store this in the "U" memory. (See above steps...)
13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0060 (600 Khz repeater offset) then press RPT again.
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Steps for setting the LOWER VHF limit to 100 MHz.\ \ \
1. Program the frequency for 140.00 MHz *SIMPLEX*.
2. Press the F/M, then RPT for the offset.
3. Enter the code 0000 into the keypad.
4. Shut the transceiver off, then turn it back on
5. Press RPT twice (for a "+" (plus) indicated offset).
6. Press REV *ONE* time.
7. The radio should now display 1140.00 MHz.
8. Press F/M, then hold the down-arrow key to decrease the displayed frequency. Stop at 1100 MHz.
9. Press RPT twice to select the "-" (minus) repeater offset.
10. Press REV twice. You should have 100.000 MHz displayed.
11. Press RPT twice to select simplex.
12. Store this in the "L" memory. (See above steps...)
13. Press F/M then RPT then enter 0060 (600 Khz repeater offset) then press RPT again.
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Notes: To use the higher frequencies you have to select the "U" channel and press MR. This puts the handheld
in the "MT" (memory tune) mode. From there you can scan down or use the (DIAL) knob to go to a lower frequency
...Likewise for the lower frequency memory. Any frequency selected using this method can be stored in any memory.
My radio will not let me go up in frequency, only down. If I try, the rig will default back to the original ham band.
I had to be careful when doing these mods. One trick I found when initially setting up the VFO with the expanded
upper and lower frequencies is that in steps 5 (and 9) if you select "+", pressing REV adds 1000 MHz to the display
or subtracts 1000 MHz if it has already been added. If you selected the "-" (minus) repeater offset, pressing REV will
subtract 400 MHz if the displayed frequency is 1000 MHz or higher, or subtract 600 MHz if the displayed frequency is
below 1000 MHz, until any more subtractions would run the frequency negative, after which it alternatively adds or
subtracts 600. You can mix the up-arrow down-arrow method with the "+ -" offset/REV combination to reduce
the time getting to the desired frequency. With these tricks, many permutations can be found to get where you want
to be very quickly.I have discovered the code "5555" works as well as "0000" for the enabling code.
Attributed: [email protected] (Walter Reid Fletcher, WB7CJO)
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Fix One-Way Tune Bug in Expanded Receive:
Effect: Allow tuning in both directions when software range extend mods have been performed.
Due to a loophole in the tuning software, you may tune from the current frequency towards the normal operating range
(430.00 450.00), but not away. Unfortunately, you are still subject to the "tune one way only" syndrome.
To bypass it, you must store some frequency in the "L" memory. It doesn't matter what this frequency is,
but it has to be below the "U" memory and, preferably, below any other frequency you want to use. You may store
a very low frequency here too (0.00MHz). BUT, the software isn't that dumb. To trick it, both the "L" and"U" memories
must be filled and active (not set for SKIP), AND you must access the out of band frequencies from the MT
(memory tune) mode, AND you must start from either the "L" or the "U" memory. To use MT:
1) Press MR and select either the L or U memory.
2) Press MR again, a small MT should appear on the left of the display.
3) You may now tune with the arrow keys, Dial knob, or directly enter frequencies with the numeric keypad.
Attributed: [email protected] (Pete McAfee)
[ed. It looks like Pete may have been the first to discover some of these neat tricks... any comments?
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Extended RCV side
effect #1: I have found what I would consider an interesting side effect with my FT-470 now that I have performed
the UHF extended receive modification. [not sure which UHF mod this is, ed.] After I had done this mod,
I found out that if I was scanning (in either Memory Tune mode or band-scan mode(between U & L)) the VHF
side of the radio in the sub-band, and listening to an extended frequency in the UHF main band, the scanning would
stop and revert back to whatever frequency it started from whenever a signal was received on the UHF side
(I don't know what frequency it reverts back to if you are scanning a VFO, but I do know that a similar thing happens)
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1750Hz tone burst:
FT470's in the UK come with the 1750 Hz tone burst option built in. It is on a tiny sub card that is wedged in down
the bottom at one side. I bought one from the UK distributors and figured out how to connect it when I got back
to the US. As far as I can tell my mod is the same as would be done if it was officially installed although the service
manual doesn't show where to connect it. It has just 3 wires, power, ground and audio out. It is activated by
applying power using the small button above the PTT so you can press both at once to call and then slide your
thumb down to release the tone button.
The board consists of a 2*color burst freq xtal and a 74HC4060 CMOS oscillator divider giving 7.16MHz
divided by 4096 = 1748 Hz. The chip is surface mounted so they can get the whole thing down to less than 0.5"
square Attributed: gingell%aurfs1%[email protected] (Mike Gingell)
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Battery latch R&R:
To replace the battery latch simply remove the battery pack. Looking at the bottom of the transceiver you will see
the battery retainer plate. Remove the 4 screws from each connor and lift the plate out. The battery latch will
come with it. Part of the retainer plate is used as a spring for the latch. Stick the new catch on the end of the spring
and reinstall in reverse order. I have broken mine twice so far. The rest of the radio seems to be pretty rugged and
I have given mine a lot of punishment so far and it seems to have taken it well.
Atrributed: [email protected] (Roger Mitchell)
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Extended RCV side effect #1:
After doing the software receive mod, the radio will pick up 2m frequencies when the display is in the
180-190MHz range. Also, the ARS (Automatic Repeater Shift) will turn on once in a while when scanning from
100 MHz to 200 MHz. Attributed: [email protected] (Mikko Noromaa)
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TNC wiring:
The FT470 is wired like an Icom. You connect the audio from the TNC to the tip of the mike plug through a
capacitor and connect the PTT to the tip with a resistor. The Icoms and Yaesus use a "leaky ground" to generate
PTT. The problem with this approach is there is a tradeoff between rapid PTT and audio level and response.
Typical values are .1 ufd and 2.2 k ohms. The RC time constant limits TR turnaround. A better scheme is to use
a tiny audio transformer sideways like so,
TNC PTT----------))))))))))))-------------> radio tip (audio)
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TNC AF OUT-------))))))))))))----X--------> radio sleeve (gnd)
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TNC GND--------------------------|\
You can rip a suitable transformer out of an old transistor radio or buy one from Radio Shack.
You should carefully set the audio level so you wind up with a 3 khz deviation for your tones. Don't exceed
that level or many units will have trouble decoding your packets. Make sure you have the power saver on the
470 turned off when you run packet or you'll miss the first part of every packet. This can drive you nuts because
everything seems to be working but nothing prints. One last note: put some distance between the antenna and the
radio and use shielded cables on your TNC. Otherwise the RFI and RF feedback will ruin your packet operation.
Attributed: [email protected] (Gary Coffman, KE4ZV)
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DC power:
The 2 meter only model does have a power jack under the rubber plug, but the 470 doesn't. There's a place on the
board for one, but Yaesu recomends that you use a PA-6 module instead. This is a module that mounts in place
of the battery and contains regulators for running the radio and charging a battery connected to the bottom of the PA-6.
This is a really\ nice accessory and well worth the price.
Attributed: [email protected] (Gary Coffman, KE4ZV)
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Intermod Cure:
I sent my Yaesu 470 in to Yaesu U.S.A. almost a month ago for them to perform the modification to cure the intermod
problem and got it back yesterday. They did cure the problem. There is no intermod at all on one repeater that I was
previously getting killed on. There is also a noticeable improvement in the sensitivity out of band on the weather
frequencies. Though my radio is almost 2 years old they did the work free of charge. I tried to have them send me
the parts to do it myself but I couldn't talk them into it.
Attributed: [email protected] (Roger Mitchell)
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