Having spent nearly 40 years in the telecom industry, I tend to look for the same things in an HF amateur transceiver as I do in a commercial or military telecom system - the ability to "get the message through" accurately, under a wide range of transmission-medium conditions. If this parameter is met - if I can understand what the distant operator is saying - then my requirements are fulfilled. If the received audio quality is slightly degraded in the process, due to severe filtering and/or noise reduction, this is an acceptable price to pay for optimum articulation and virtually perfect copy. In a telecommunications system, I rank audio quality lower than communications efficacy. Of course I like to transmit a signal of which I can be proud - and invariably, the IC-756Pro2 with the Heil GL/HC-5 earns me good audio reports. I like a received signal which is pleasant to listen to, and does not cause listener fatigue; the IC-756Pro II has very good receive audio to my ear - specially when driving a good telecom-optimised headset. However, if I have to bring the radio's DSP tools to bear to "pull up" an otherwise unintelligible signal, and the end result, whilst perfectly intelligible, is a little "rough" - well, I am ahead of the game because we "got the message through". Here is an example: During a recent sked on 15m with an old friend of mine, a band-limited noise spectrum about 2 kHz wide popped up on our frequency. By engaging the DSP Manual Notch and turning the control, I was able to pull my friend's signal right out of that stuff with optimal articulation and 100% copy. I defy any analogue radio to emulate this. In the Icom PRO series, the DSP is the radio. http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/icom/pro_dsp.html Ultimately, the radio purchaser will have to make his own decision according to what he prefers and values most. From my perspective, the signal-management power which DSP technology places in my hands has settled the debate in favour of a 100% DSP-based radio architecture. Cheers for now, 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ -----Original Message----- From: 1000mp-bounces@mailman.qth.net [mailto:1000mp-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike MacDonald Sent: 11 June 2004 08:01 To: All about Yaesu 1000mp Subject: RE: [1000mp] IC-756Pro II Transmitter Issues I had an Icom 756 Pro I sold it, It never did sound quite right to me(Artificial?). (SNIP) ===== Harry - AB2PN There were the same kind of complaints about the difference between all tube receivers and solid state receivers. However, I think the difference between solid state with analog filters and dsp receivers is even more pronounced. I had a TS-870 which is a fine radio. Probably the best rtty rig made but for voice work it bothered me. It sounded fine but dsp has a quality to it that is even less warm than the previous generation. One of the reasons I bought the Field was to have a choice whether to use dsp or not. Mike WA2E