RE: [SI-LIST] : 2.5 Gbps across a backplane

About this list Date view Thread view Subject view Author view

From: Larry Miller (ldmiller@nortelnetworks.com)
Date: Tue Oct 17 2000 - 06:43:42 PDT


It is done inside ASICs. At the frequencies of interest discrete parts would
be problematic; digital FIR filter techniques are needed for picosecond pole
and zero time constants.

Broadcom makes one of the most widely available adaptively-equalized serial
backplane drivers for general use. I'm sure there are others.

This is getting to be a Big Deal with increasing speeds in networking gear.

In the context of Fibre Channel and 10 Gigabit Ethernet transceivers the
equalizers are done in the interface ICs. Some of these may actually be
mounted inside the optical transceivers.

Larry Miller

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DORIN OPREA [SMTP:dorin.oprea@alcatel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:52 AM
> To: si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
> Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] : 2.5 Gbps across a backplane
>
> Hi,
>
> Can somebody describe in detail the way the equalization is done ?
> Are the equalizors ICs or filters ? What is the name of the device ?
>
> Thanks,
> Dorin
>
>
>
> "Dr. Edward P. Sayre" wrote:
>
> > Folks:
> >
> > A subtle issue came up in the recent T11 (Fibre Channel) meetings. How
> do
> > you spec an interconnect when adaptive equalization parts will be used
> to
> > dig out the signal? If you have really good eye-diagrams response then
> do
> > you need equalization? Conversely, if you need equalization because of
> > excessive deterministic jitter (read that insufficient rise time
> bandwidth)
> > or eye closure (read that too much attenuation) or both, then what
> > constitutes an acceptable way to specify the interconnect, be it
> backplane,
> > cable or connector?
> >
> > Now, the question of cross talk corruption of the signals is another
> > matter, especially when equalization is involved. Cross talk can be of
> no
> > consequence or it can be of terrible consequence, especially if there is
> a
> > requirement for byte (a 4 bit nibble) aligned serial data streams. Our
> > work indicates that connector cross talk in differential connectors
> appears
> > to be essentially dV/dt noise due to any asymmetries in the geometry of
> the
> > connector or interconnect (vias count here!). Although small, and
> > generally in the (1 - 4%) range, it is obviously a problem when many
> lines
> > are switching and especially if the time alignment is not within a small
> %
> > of the rise time between individual differential components. If the
> signal
> > is broken into its even (common mode) and odd (differential) mode
> > components, it can be shown that very soon the common mode cross talk
> > dominates the cross talk.
> >
> > So, when is cross talk an equalization issue from a differential eye
> > diagram point of view; and can equalization help from an EMI point of
> view?
> > I look forward to folks' ideas on this matter.
> >
> > ed sayre
> >
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
> > | NORTH EAST SYSTEMS ASSOCIATES, INC. |
> > | ------------------------------------- |
> > | "High Performance Engineering & Design" |
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
> > | Dr. Ed Sayre e-mail: esayre@nesa.com |
> > | NESA, Inc. http://www.nesa.com/ |
> > | 636 Great Road Tel +1.978.897-8787 |
> > | Stow, MA 01775 USA Fax +1.978.897-5359 |
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
> >
> > **** To unsubscribe from si-list or si-list-digest: send e-mail to
> > majordomo@silab.eng.sun.com. In the BODY of message put: UNSUBSCRIBE
> > si-list or UNSUBSCRIBE si-list-digest, for more help, put HELP.
> > si-list archives are accessible at http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu
> > ****
>
>
> **** To unsubscribe from si-list or si-list-digest: send e-mail to
> majordomo@silab.eng.sun.com. In the BODY of message put: UNSUBSCRIBE
> si-list or UNSUBSCRIBE si-list-digest, for more help, put HELP.
> si-list archives are accessible at http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu
> ****
>

**** To unsubscribe from si-list or si-list-digest: send e-mail to
majordomo@silab.eng.sun.com. In the BODY of message put: UNSUBSCRIBE
si-list or UNSUBSCRIBE si-list-digest, for more help, put HELP.
si-list archives are accessible at http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu
****


About this list Date view Thread view Subject view Author view

This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Tue May 08 2001 - 14:29:47 PDT