Re: [SI-LIST] : No buried/embedded capacitance?

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From: Muhammad S. Sagarwala ([email protected])
Date: Fri Sep 22 2000 - 12:04:21 PDT


0508 caps with 1nh ESL????I am looking at the AVX specs and they list the
ESL to be 0.6nh.
I am pretty sure Murata specs them to be less than 1nh too...I would
recommend checking the
ESL spec. again...

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kennedy <[email protected]>
To: silist <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: [SI-LIST] : No buried/embedded capacitance?

>Dear All,
>
>I have a board that through analysis requires:
>
>32 x 100 microfarad caps with inductance of 4nH and 0.1 ohms ESR, for
>bulk capacitance.
>321 x 100nF caps with inductance of 1nH (using 0508 package) and ESR of
>0.1 ohms for high frequency switching of 576 sram drivers. I have an
>Fknee of 200 MHz.
>
>If I plot this using Ultracad's software (
>http://www.ultracad.com/esr.htm ) I get the black plot in the attached
>image. You can see that the maximum impedance is below my goal of 0.004
>ohms at 200 MHz.
>
>I then added to the analysis the use of either buried capacitance using
>a standard dielectric of 4.5 with thickness of 2 mil (the red plot), and
>then using embedded capacitance using Hadco's dielectric of 50 with a
>thickness of 2 mil (the blue plot). Assumed inductance was 1 pH and 0.1
>micro ohms ESR.
>
>As you can see in both cases it appears to me that buried or embedded
>capacitance is a hindrance and therefore I should separate my power and
>ground planes with signal layers. My question to you all is am I
>correct in this statement or have I missed something?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>John
>
>PS. 321 ceramic caps is a lot of board space, any suggestions on ways to
>reduce the count?

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