RE: [SI-LIST] : A interesting question

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From: Mayer, Mike (mikem@artesyncp.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 2000 - 06:49:44 PDT


I assumed the question was about the goal. How to get there if you're
starting with engineers unfamiliar with SI tools is another matter. I know
that Innoveda has training for XTK, BLAST, etc. and they also have a
consulting group who will come on site, help set up the process and train
people while helping get the first products through. I would assume that the
other tool suppliers have similar services.

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Mike Mayer Artesyn Communication Products, Inc
Senior Hardware Design Engineer Madison, WI
mikem@artesyncp.com http://www.artesyncp.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: zanella, fabrizio [mailto:zanella_fabrizio@emc.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 8:40 AM
> To: 'Mayer, Mike'; 'rachild.chen'; si-list
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : A interesting question
>
>
> I'm not sure if you answered Rachild's question, Mike.
> Rachild, if your company is in the early stages of
> implementing SI analysis
> for board designs, I suggest you have a group of dedicated
> SI engineers
> doing the analysis from pre-layout to post-layout. Have them
> involved in
> the various design stages and work closely with the hardware
> designers. You
> cannot just hand the hardware designers SI tools and expect
> good results,
> for most hardware designers are logic (not analog) experts.
> Regards, Fabrizio Zanella
> EMC Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mayer, Mike [mailto:mikem@artesyncp.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:07 AM
> To: 'rachild.chen'; si-list
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : A interesting question
>
>
> For board designs of moderate complexity it is best to have
> the hardware
> design engineer do the SI analysis. SI is so much a part of
> the design that
> I don't think it is possible to do it well if it is
> separated. SI affects
> timing, trace topology, device selection, and many other
> things that are
> part of what is traditionally considered hardware design. In
> the past, with
> slower devices, a hardware design engineer could ignore SI
> effects when
> looking at these issues, but it is not possible now. The SI
> software out
> there is just another tool that hardware designers use to get
> the job done.
>
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> Mike Mayer Artesyn
> Communication Products, Inc
> Senior Hardware Design Engineer Madison, WI
> mikem@artesyncp.com http://www.artesyncp.com
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> ==============
> =
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rachild.chen [mailto:rachel.chen@huawei.com.cn]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 8:00 PM
> > To: si-list
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] : A interesting question
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > It is true that everyone think SI is the most important
> > problem in HSSD here.We know SI should be considered in a
> > full design flow(from system level design to manufacturing)
> > and by every engineer(hardware engineer,SI engineer,Layout
> > engineer,ASIC engineer,EMC/EMI engineer,System
> > enginneer,manufacture engineer etc.).I have a interesting
> > question.What is the every engineer's duty in SI and how to
> > distribute the SI work?
> > For example,the pre-layout analysis should be done by
> > hardware engineer.
> >
> > Waiting for your answer.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > rachild
> >
>
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