RE: [SI-LIST] : HSPICE and XTK

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From: Haller, Robert (rhaller@cereva.com)
Date: Mon Jul 31 2000 - 07:09:46 PDT


  Mike,
        Would you buy a car before you test drove it ?
There are many good simulators available. I would recommend doing some
research, you might try;
 http://www.scs.ch/~andrew/hsdd/simulation_tools.html there are alot of
other good places too.
Narrow the field down to a few you want to test drive, then obtain demo
copies of the software from your local rep. You will learn a lot going
through the exercise, and usually the best attention/support is a pre-sales
evaluation.

regards,
Bob haller

Cereva Networks
3 Network Drive
Marlboro MA. 01752
Phone: 508-486-9660 X 365
FAX: 508-486-9661
Email: rhaller@cereva.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Khusid [mailto:mkhusid@sitaranetworks.com]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:04 AM
To: si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
Subject: [SI-LIST] : HSPICE and XTK

Hello,

I am currently looking to get myself some signal integrity software and I
keep hearing wonderful things about Innoveda's XTK and bad things about
Avanti! Hspice (see below). Is it really true? Is XTK really that wonderful?
I will be simulating traces on boards, will XTK be able to successfully run
a multi-board simulation? Will I have problems converting vendor's IBIS
models into XTK format? What about translating board layout into lossy line
models inside XTK? What about converting SPICE connector models in XTK
format? Are there any caveats to using XTK?

Thanks in advance to everyone.

Mike Khusid
Sitara Networks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellitz, Richard [mailto:richard.mellitz@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:48 PM
> To: 'Alex March'; si-list@silab.eng.sun.com
> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] : W element with field solver model in HSPICE
>
>
> Alex,
>
> Try 1 mil! And see what happens. The W Elements are broke in
> the CD version
> of HSPICE 1999.4. A fixed one was available from Avanti!. I
> haven't tried
> out 2000.2 yet.
>
> Also the HSPICE 2-D field solver compares well with most
> other field solvers
> as far as RLCG go. However the Rs value is around 20-30% too low.
>
> Rich Mellitz
> Intel
>

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