From: Chan, Michael ([email protected])
Date: Fri Jan 14 2000 - 07:29:37 PST
Laurence:
Model supports is a little slow from Hyperlynx. I have been waiting
for one year to see when support for IBIS Version 3.2 or later shows up and
so
far haven't see it yet. Definitely ease of use is a plus for Hyperlynx.
I found building complex netlists for LVDS SCSI simulation using
Hyperlynx preset netlist template is very time comsumption and eventually
you
need a movie projector to see most of the netlist that you create.
Coupled Lossy transmission lines update will be welcomed as well
Regards,
Michael Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Michaels [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 8:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] : XTK vs ICX
[email protected] wrote:
>
> Dear Gentleman,
>
> My company is in the process of evaluation several Signal Integrity Tools
such
> as XTK, ICX and Hyperlynx.
> We eliminated Hyperlynx already. Our requirements are to design a 19 slot
> chassis ( main card, backplane and several plug in cards). We have several
high
> speed (622Mbs) BLVDS buses, ethernet, gigabit, OC12, OC48, 128 MHz 64 bit
DRAM
> buses (1Gig), PECL We are focusing on model support, easy of use, rules
> checking, what-if, multi-board, tool support.
>
> I would be interested in any feedback as to your experience in using these
tools
> (Pros and Cons).
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
Hmm... Why did you eliminate Hyperlynx? I've heard good things about
HLs ease
of use, which may turn out to be more important than feature set. If a
tool's
too hard to use, you may find your other engineers refusing to use it,
or
ignoring the results.
XTK experiences: positive, except for XFX3D tool (which should not be
purchased
until they show you it can do what you need it for). Ease of use was
low when
I first tried XTK, but has improved greatly since Viewlogic introduced
"ePlanner".
Viewlogic bought XTK almost a year ago, so the integration between
Viewdraw and
XTK has greatly improved.
ICX experiences: none. Mentor bought Veribest not too long ago, so
things may
change for the better in their Windows based tool-set.
I'd go with a simplified SI tool, so that your design engineers have a
way of
quickly checking a simple design, along with a more complicated
"simulate the
whole d**n thing, looking for problems" tool for the SI group (one
person,
usually) to use on boards that may be problematic.
Welcome to the group, and beware the Ides of March,
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