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> From: PRASAD_VENUGOPAL@HP-SanJose-om1.om.hp.com
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> Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] : High Speed Queries
> Author: Non-HP-portman (firstname.lastname@example.org) at HP-Boise,mimegw4
> Date: 11/6/98 10:20 AM
> Lum Wee Mei,
> Signal Integrity and PCB layout is not easy is different for each and every
> application, but it can be learned.
> The first thing to do purchase a copy of
> High-Speed Digital Design : A Handbook Of Black Magic
> By Johnson, Howard W. / Graham, Martin
> CONTENT HIGHLIGHTS:
> Covers signal reflection, crosstalk, and noise problems that occur in
> high-speed digital machines (about 10 megahertz).
> Includes checklists that ask the questions an experienced designer would ask
> about a new system.
> Offers useful formulas for inductance, capacitance, resistance, rise time, and
> Explains the trade-offs between signal crosstalk, mechanical fabrication of
> tolerances, and trace routing density.
> Presents a methodology for determining how many layers will be required to
> route a printed circuit board.
> The second thing to do is sit down for a couple undisturbed days and read it
> very carefully.
> Then read it again.
> Thirdly log onto Howard's web page www.sigcon.com - read, read, read.
> Fourthly, purchase a copy of the following book and read it thoroughly as
> EMC and the Printed Circuit Board: Design, Theory, and Layout Made Simple by
> Mark Montrose
> Contents : EMC Fundamentals; EMC Inside The PCB; Components
> and EMC; Image Planes; Bypassing and Decoupling;
> Transmission Lines; Signal Integrity and
> Crosstalk; Trace Termination; Grounding
> Copyright : 1999
> Format : Hardcover
> Pages : 320pp
> List Price US$ : $69.99
> IEEE Member Price US$: $56.00
> IEEE Product No. : PC5756-QAJ
> ISBN : 0-7803-4703-X
> After all this reading, you can probably answer a lot of your own questions.
> But remember, there
> is not just one solution and it is not an easy subject matter. It takes
> knowledge, experience and
> some guesswork.
> Finally, may I suggest you get a Signal Integrity (SI) tool. There are
> several like Viewlogic's XTK
> and Mentor's IS. The one I like is Hyperlynx. (www.hyperlynx.com) Mainly
> because it is very easy to use,
> secondly because you don't have to sell your first born son to get it. It may
> not be as accurate
> as the previous two, but I don't have to hire a guru to run it.
> LineSim is a good first cut - but you have to lay out the signal topology
> yourself one at a time.
> It is ok for scratch pad work and pre-planning.
> BoardSim lays out all the signals at once by reading in your actual board
> layout from your CAD tool.
> BoardSim willl let you approximate things with the generic models it provides,
> but you WILL have to
> learn what IBIS models are before you can really make use of BoardSim.
> Download the demo and take a look.
> Like I said, SI and PCB layout is not easy, but with some reading and
> experience you can get along
> just fine.
> Good Luck,
> Lum Wee Mei wrote:
> > Hi, Todd and the rest in this mailing list:
> > I am a "new kid in town" and is task to look into the high-speed design area.
> I understand this is not an easy topics and I hope to get some expert guidances
> from all of you. I have to come out with design rules so as that designs
> > require such area can refer to. Have someone draft a set of high speed design
> rules that can share with me?
> > I have the following queries that that some of you might able to help me. They
> > 1. How you identify high speed signal? By its rise time or by its operation?
> > 2. Someone told me that all high speed signals have to be impedance controlled
> . Is this correct? If not, what signals should be impedance controlled.
> > 3. I come across a so-called high-speed board which has many vias being punche
> d on its fill (for both ground and power) along side the pads for inductors and
> capacitors. They are also found on very thick ground traces. What are
> > the purposes of such vias? Did they play a role in high speed?
> > I look forward to your reply.
> > Thanks and regards.
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