Re: Newbie question Re: PCB SI simulation tools

Uwe Keller (uk@c-lab.de)
Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:31:54 +0200 (MET DST)

>
> Hi,
>
> I apologize if my question does not fit the format of the list (forgive
> the newbie).
>
> I am currently involved in the design of high-speed test interface
> equipment, which utilize a large PCB as a major portion of the
> interconnect. Ideally, I would like to be able to simulate the response
> of this interconnect to varying stimuli from DC->800MHz (di/dt up to
> 20A/ns, normal logic voltage levels CMOS, BiCMOS,etc) digital signals
> for signal integrity problems. We currently use a microwave (freq.
> domain) analysis tool for Power Integrity issues, but the learning curve
> for this tool is steep. I am looking for a nice GUI that our technicians
> would be comfortable with, but am mostly concerned with accuracy across
> this range.
>
> I would like to solicit any recommendations based on this groups
> experience with the available tools in industry for PCB SI analysis.
> Please respond to my email address, and I will be happy to post any
> results to the list.
>
> Also, I realize that several EDA vendors participate in this list, I
> welcome your comments as well (why is your companies product better than
> anyone elses?).
>
> Thanks in advance for any info you can provide, and again I apologize if
> this is not a proper forum for this question.
>
> Brett
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Hi Brett,

there is something out called the EMC-Workbench, which provides
a need graphical user interface for project administration as well
as network analysis. It comes with all kinds of software tools,
starting from calculation of the TL parameters, a transmission line
simulator tailored for reflection and x-talk analysis, a MOM code
for radiation prediction. It is connected to a component library,
and has all kinds of visualization tools for results and layout.
For parameter studies one may even alter the network properties
in something that resembles a graphical editor.

The procedure somehow is selection of a network or interconnect via
its name by mouse click, selection of analysis method; if one is
lucky and the layout is appropriately specified, it finds the attached
components, if not one has to attach models from a library. Then
one has to specify the excitation function (clock, magnitude,
duty cycle - rise and fall times are due to the library model).
Subsequently the calculation is and the results are displayed.

More information may be found on their web site

http://www.pad.incases.com/

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