Raymond Chen
--- "Ingraham, Andrew" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Larry Forsythe wrote:
>
> >I'm confused about how IBIS is used in actual
> simulations. I haven't seen
> >any articles about this (please indicate if there
> are some).
>
> And you might not find any that go into much detail.
> The actual algorithm
> used by each simulator, especially as to how it
> handles the V-T data, might
> be a guarded secret.
>
> > What I'm
> >confused about is how can a few static I-V curves
> and some V-T curves done
> >at specific loads be used to simulate other loads.
> The I-V curves involve
> >fully on transistors. The V-T curves involve
> partially turned-on
> transistors
> >driving a specific load.
>
> Typically, an output buffer interacts with its load
> over a period of several
> nanoseconds while the signal rattles around and
> eventually settles. Yet the
> time it spends actually changing -- the time for the
> drive to its output
> transistors to switch -- is much less, perhaps a few
> hundred picoseconds.
> It is a fair approximation to treat the output
> buffer as if it were static
> (defined by one I-V curve or the other) almost all
> of the time. In between
> the two, it makes some sort of transition from one
> I-V curve to another, in
> a relatively short interval, the effects of which
> might be swamped by the
> interaction with the load.
>
> > Is it valid to scale the I-V curves using the V-T
> >curves in order to derive the response to driving
> other loads?
>
> Here's where you get into the proprietary details of
> each simulator's
> vendor.
>
> If you're lucky, the load for the V-T curves is
> close to the trace
> characteristic impedance.
>
> > Can the I-V
> >curves and V-T curves be used to determine the
> characteristics of a
> >partially turned on transistor driving a different
> load-I guess that is the
> >source of my confusion.
>
> To varying degrees, apparently yes.
>
> Regards,
> Andy Ingraham
>
>
>
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