Re: [SI-LIST] : Best type of models, edge rates & load

Scott McMorrow (scott@vasthorizons.com)
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:39:42 -0700

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Rachild,

I did not mean to say that the rise time was 1-2ps,
but rather that the absolute difference between the waveforms simulated with
an Ibis simulator and HSPICE was only 1-2ps. One does
not have to settle in IBIS for models with only a dV/dT. One can generate
(or receive from vendors) models which have extremely accurate
driving waveform shapes.

regards,

scott

Rachild Chen wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Which device's rising time is 1~2ps?How can you simulate by Hspice?How about the
> W-element work in this case?
>
> Rachild Chen
>
> Scott McMorrow wrote:
>
> > Roy,
> >
> > Roy Leventhal wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > But, I would guess that the 20% to 80% IBIS convention was chosen to fit in a
> > > more linear range of the I/O characteristics. I'm not sure that the choice has
> > > been a good one.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> >
> > The 20% to 80% convention of IBIS is as good as any for getting
> > in the rough ballpark. However, since version 2.1 Ibis has
> > allowed the use of rising and falling waveform tables. One may
> > replicate the output edge response using this construct to any
> > desired degree of accuracy. Mine are often within 1 or 2 ps
> > of Hspice simulations.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > scott
> >
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Scott McMorrow
Principal Engineer
SiQual, Signal Quality Engineering
18735 SW Boones Ferry Road
Tualatin, OR  97062-3090
(503) 885-1231
http://www.siqual.com

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