RE: [SI-LIST] : Parallel tracks on Flexible PCB without Ground Pl

Grasso, Charles (GrassC@LOUISVILLE.STORTEK.COM)
Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:11:47 -0600

Dear All,
Aubrey Sparkman is exactly right. I use Ansofts tool and have just finished
an exhaustive
series of analyses on a felx cable for a tape head. BTW, we wanted to get
the L, C & tpd
values as well!! These values were obtained using the spice equivalent.

Thank you
Charles Grasso
Advisory Engineer
StorageTek
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aubrey Keith Sparkman [mailto:asparky@SparkRight-Solutions.com]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:58 AM
To: si-list@silab.eng.sun.com; CAI ZhongPing
Cc: 'DesignerCouncil@IPC.ORG'; 'emcconsultant@yahoo.com';
'fred@apsimtech.com'; 'georg.ramsch@po.uni-stuttgart.de';
'scarp@sonnetusa.com'; 'weirsp@a.crl.com'
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] : Parallel tracks on Flexible PCB without Ground
Plane

CAI,
I have solved a similar problem using the technique suggested by Steve
<addbook:add?vcard=begin%3Avcard%0Afn%3ASteve%20Weir%0Aemail%3Binternet%3Awe
irsp%40a.crl.com%0Aend%3Avcard%0A> Weir <weirsp@a.crl.com> in his message
dated Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:33:39. The way to do this in Ansoft's tool would
be to re-label YOUR GND leads as GMETAL and solve for ALL your leads as
signals very far from the solver's ground plane. The tool allows you to
"Zero" or "ground out" certain leads after it has completed the field
solution. Grounding out the GMETAL leads will then cause the proper
transformation of the mutual coupling values to the values you need.

Aubrey Sparkman
SparkRight Solutions


CAI ZhongPing wrote:

Dear experts,

Sorry to disturb you again. :) The following figure explains the case more
clearly:

________ ________ ________ ________
|________| |________| |________| |________|
GND Signal GND Signal

So they are not driven differentially. General tools calculate differential
impedance, right? Can just setting the distance to the plane very high get
correct result?

Thanks for your help and look forward to your reply.

Cai

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