+++++++++++++++++++++ See also CW Kosh Training Software +++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:35:47 -0700 From: Conrad Weiss To: "'Mercxx@aol.com'" , Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [127130] RE: Morse Software Steve and all, In addition to practicing w/ software that emulates QSOs, you might enjoy working out with "RUFZ," by DL4MM. It's a free download (complements of our German friends at DARC) and is geared toward head-copy of call signs for advanced CW ops. "RUFZ" is the abbreviation of the German word "Rufzeichen-Horen" which means "Listening of Callsigns" - half the battle! It's a challenging "boot camp" approach that's fun to work with, and has a scoring system that's rewarding. It runs in pure DOS, or in a DOS session in Win95. And you don't really have to be "advanced" to use it - but I wouldn't encourage beginners to start w/ it. URL for download and more info: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedtr.htm Best, Conrad Weiss NN6CW ---------- From: Mercxx@aol.com[SMTP:Mercxx@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:51 AM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: Morse Software Good afternoon, I am looking for opinions on CW software. I am looking for a program that simulates QSOs at 25 plus wpm. I would appreciate all recomendations. Thanks for the time. 72 Steve N4TKP +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 05:15:54 +0100 From: Chuck Adams To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [127136] Re: Morse Software [long] Gang, For QSOs that are software generated the best software around was that in the AEA MM-3 Morse Machine. It could do a lot of things but the two most interesting were: 1. You could set the lower and upper limits on code speed and let it randomly generate QSOs between two stations. The stations would have two tones so you could tell each apart easily. 2. You could send CQ with your own paddle and have a random station come back to you at your speed. And it would recognize your name (or the one that you sent and if you make a mistake it copies it exactly as you sent it). The MM-3 can only be found at swap meets and make sure you don't pay more that $50 and make sure it is working and hasn't been beat to death and abused. But there is always a problem with software generated QSOs and this is the complaint I hear most. They don't get much past RST, NAME, QTH, WX, and RIGS in use exchanges. And about 4 different excuses for going QRT on the other end. Not unlike most of todays QSOs, but that is another thread non-QRP related. So for all the PIC and Atmel programmers out there ---- here is another challenging problem to solve. There is a demand. The MFJ Morse Tutor does the dual station QSO thing with different tones, but again the software is limited to very short QSOs and it will help you to learn the words most heard and Q-signals most used. Limited, but a good start for the newbie. But you will quickly memorize the general QSOs and names and most likely the calls too after a while. Remember that the processor has limited memory. It doesn't have the FCC database on hand (yet). RUFZ and PED are two mainly used programs for copying random calls and working a pileup, which most of us rarely get to do except maybe in the fox hunt when you are the fox. Anything that will get you to push away from the keyboard and listen to Morse is a good deal, but they all have their limits. There is no one solution to the problem. Getting on the air and hoping that you get a good clean fist on the other end is the best way. Those of us that have a lot of experience on plain text got it back when the wire services sent daily news on shortwave to cruise ships at sea and the world in general. Now --- every one sits in front of the glass tube to get their news with color photos..... :-) FYI, Chuck Adams, K7QO CP-60 k7qo@earthlink.net http://www.qsl.net/k7qo Moving to Arizona? --- Bring your own water, please. +++++++++++++++++++ From: "Sherman Banks (W4ATL)" To: "Joseph Wiedeman" , Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW Program Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:46:34 -0500 I have not tried these programs, but they are shareware. http://www.dxsoft.com/ CWGet and CWType are the programs you are interested in. I use Writelog and DXBase for CW keying. -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-admin@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-admin@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Joseph Wiedeman Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] CW Program Hi: Can someone please give me a link to a CW receive/send program for sound card using a late WINDOWS 98 or mx platform. It can be freeware or shareware (reg. fee) In the WORST case buy (ug). Please nothing that does every mode in existance and so complex that even the coder can't figure out how to use it. Thanks to all K2MUF joe@nyc.rr.com ++++++++++++++++ From: "Bob - AG5Q" To: "Joseph Wiedeman" , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Program Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:51:19 -0600 I just downloaded CWGet with no problem using IE5. It works pretty good on strong signals. Thanks for the link, Sherman. 73/ Bob - AG5Q ++++++++++++++++ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) From: Denis Dimick To: Joseph Wiedeman Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Program I have almost the same computer setup and have found that CWType and CWGet both work well for what you want to do.. Do a google search to get the best URL -Denis +++++++++++++++ From: "Mike" To: "Joseph Wiedeman" , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Program Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:36:54 -0500 Joe, Take a look at this program: http://www.qsl.net/g4fon/cw%20trainer.htm This is the KOCH method CW trainer written by G4FON. It will operate with Windows version 9x, NT and XP. Of course it requires a sound card. Some very interesting features to this program. You can actually set the signal strength, QSB, noise level, speed and on and on.....you can even put a CHIRP on the signal. It is up to version 4 now and is a very good program for learning CW or just improving you comfort level. Best of all it is FREE.....check it out. I just connected to the site so I know the address is good, IF I typed everything right! Mike - KC8WR +++++++++++++++++ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:04:38 -0500 (EST) From: k4wtf@ENTERZONE.NET To: Joseph Wiedeman Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW Program CWGet and CWType work quite well once you get the hang of using them. ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:13:24 +0000 From: "Julian (G4ILO)" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Program To: "Elecraft List" I'd recommend MixW (from www.mixw.net.) Although K2MUF asked for "nothing that does every mode in existence" the reason for my recommendation is that MixW is by the same author as CWGet and CWType and is much superior at receiving as the former programs have not been developed for some time. 73, -- Julian, G4ILO. (K2 #392) Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/g4ilo ++++++++++++++++++ Reply-To: From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: "'Elecraft'" Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW Program Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:00:00 -0800 As a person who uses a Bug 95% of the time and a Straight Key the rest of the time, I use CWGet to test and improve my sending.. I practice regularly to avoid getting a "swing" and other habits I don't want. My favorite practice is to send a page out of the phone book, numbers and all. The goal is perfect copy on CWGet using a bug. I've never achieved it yet, but it's fun working at it. Some folks ask why use a bug or straight key when we have machines that are more precise and which never screw up. But, ya' know, I enjoy listening to a live orchestra more than computer-generated music. Indeed, I used to look down on ops who used keyboards. I had used a keyer for nearly 20 years. Once in a while I got out the straight key, but I was useless on the bug. My brain completely forgot how to provide the exact timing that a bug demands - timing that keyers provide automatically. I got an answer to a call on CW one day. His call was vaguely familiar. Clearly, he was a master on a keyer or he was on a keyboard. Then he told me why his call was familiar. He was an old Maritime Radio Operator who I had worked many times years before. Back then, he was using his bug and he used to chide me for my keyer. Then he suffered a stroke. It cost him all of the fine motor control in his hands. The doc had told him that he was lucky to move them at all. He was determined to do what he could, in spite of the odds. But a manual key was completely beyond him. So far, all he could do was poke one finger at a keyboard. He hoped that I wasn't "put off" by his using a keyboard. "Put off?". I was just glad that he had survived and was back on CW. After the QSO I took my bug down from its display shelf, cleaned it up, and learned how to use it again. I'll return to a keyer or use a keyboard some day, if I must. I will if that's the only way that I can send clean CW. Until then, I'm savoring every moment with my bug, just like I savor life itself. That QSO taught me that the important choices aren't the ones made by the other guy, they're the choices that I make that make my life as full and interesting as I am allowed. I can't play a musical instrument. I'm not a doctor who can repair a broken body. I'm not an artist who can paint a beautiful picture. I can't do a million things that other people do. But the bug, it's just something that makes me smile - and that's reason enough. If I'm working a guy with a keyboard, or a keyer, or a straight key, it doesn't matter to me. I only hope that he's having as much fun as I. Ron AC7AC K2 # 1289 +++++++++++++++