++++++++++++++++++ See also Anderson Powerpole Power Connector Usage ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 14:07:46 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick Organization: Elecraft To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Molex vs Anderson PowerPole for power connectors And of course the APP connectors are what we're using with the K2/100. 73, Wayne ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:29:02 -0400 (EDT) From: kc4kgu at EnterZone.Net To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Molex vs Anderson PowerPole for power connectors On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Steve Jackson wrote: > A previous posting I made contained an incorrect URL, referring to common > installation of Molex power connectors. > > The correct URL is: http://www.qsl.net/w4ez/OCAREScn.gif > > Steve KZ1X/4 K2 #771 > Might I suggest to ANYONE who is considering using Molex power connectors that you investigate Anderson PowerPoles first. They *are* the ARES/RACES/MARS standard, are genderless and will handle up to 40Amps. See the following links for information on PowerPoles and ARES/RACES: http://www.westmountainradio.com/linksrr.htm And at the following URL, you can find the ultimate in power distribution using Anderson PowerPoles: http://www.westmountainradio.com/RIGrunner.htm I can take ANY 12v device I own to any other ARES/RACES compliant amateurs house/vehicle and plug it right in. In addition, I can put a RigRunner in place of the radio in my truck and get 12 powerpole outlets to use with emergency field communications. I had been looking for decent power connectors to use on all of my vehicles and in the shack for a long time. The powerpoles are awesome. You can get 100-pair of 30A powerpole connectors at West Mountain Radio for about $70.00. That is more than enough for most amateurs to retrofit ALL of their 12v equipment, make 12v extension cords, cig lighter-to-powerpole adapters and powerpole to cig lighter socket adapters, powerpole to bananna jack, etc, etc, etc. http://www.westmountainradio.com/order_us48a.htm Again, I have no affiliation with Anderson or West Mountain Radio. I am just trying to save others the time and money I wasted trying to find the best. The Anderson PowerPole system and the West Mountain Radio RIGrunner are simply awesome. 73 de John - KC4KGU K2 #2490 +++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:06:38 +0000 To: kc4kgu at EnterZone.Net, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: Larry Cahoon Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Molex vs Anderson PowerPole for power connectors Let me second that on the Anderson PowerPole. I have moved over to them and they are very good. My source is at http://www.powerwerx.com/powerpoles.html About the same price, I think they do a bit better with the photos and have a good bit of the technical details. I have found it very easy to put a set together. This place also has a 15 Amp versions that I didn't see mentioned at the site John uses. One nice thing about them is that the housing for the 15A, 30A, and 45A are all the same. the only difference is in the contacts you solder the wire to. The contacts are designed for varying wire sizes. But they are designed so you can plug the 45A connection into a 15A connection. 73 de Larry.........WD3P in MD http://www.qsl.net/wd3p/ At 03:29 PM 4/7/2002 -0400, kc4kgu at EnterZone.Net wrote: >Might I suggest to ANYONE who is considering using Molex power connectors >that you investigate Anderson PowerPoles first. -- snip -- +++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:28:16 -0400 (EDT) From: kc4kgu at ENTERZONE.NET To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Molex vs Anderson PowerPole for power connectors I have a friend who I told about the powerpoles and the RIGrunner about 2 months ago. He didn't go for them at that time because he hadn't seen them in use. Once he saw them in action at shack, vehicles and office, he was hooked. That very same day, we replaced the Molex connectors in his vehicle with powerpoles and he ordered 100-pairs and a RIGrunner for himself. Being able to use ANY powerpole cable with ANY other powerpole cable allows total flexibility. Cable not long enough? Just put an extension in line. I use 10-guage wire and 45Amp connectors to make extensions so, they can be used on anything I would ever need. I haven't bothered with anything smaller than the 30Amp connectors though. Since I always solder the wires to the connector, it doesn't matter if the connector is a little big for the wire and they will almost ALWAYS be large enough for whatever purpose I'm going to use them for. I use the 45Amp connectors and 10-guage wire for patch cables though. 73 de John - KC4KGU K2 #2490 +++++++++++++++++ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Eaton Reply-To: rt66eaton at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] powering the K2/100 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net --- Larry Cahoon wrote: > At 11:34 PM 4/7/2002 -0400, Steve Jackson wrote: > > >Many ARES groups (like Fulton Co. GA) have 'converted' to the A-P-P > >connector, but the official ARES standard remains the Molex 319: > >http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-01/ia.html > > Best to have the molex - APP and everything else connectors. > > This document does not say it is the standard - read carefully..... > > "The following standards were tentatively adopted for DC power > connectors: " > > "tentatively" does not sound like a standard to me. This document is > dated > from a Novemeber 12, 2000 conference of the ARRL Industry Advisory > Council. The minutes go on to add "The council intends that the > tentative > recommendations as well as the items under consideration be submitted > to > JAIA for their comments and recommendations." So I don't see anything > final > in this stuff. > SNIP.... > Sound like they are getting closer to a standard. But then steps in > the > Volunteer Resources Committee. so check > out http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-0107/vrc.html > > This is the Volunteer Resources Committee Report to the ARRL Board of > > Directors dated July 20, 2001. That is eight months later than the > original > IAC report. There it notes says "For over a year there have been > suggestions from several directions suggesting that ARRL support a > new > standard for power supply interconnection, the Anderson Powerpole." > I'll jump in and add one other piece of data, for whatever it's worth. I recently completed the ARRL Emergency Communications Level 1 course. The course training material indicated that the Anderson Power Pole was the "standard" ARES connector. Independent of this, I had already standardized on Power Pole connectors for all of my gear. I really like the relatively small size, the ease of installation, and the lack of gender. I have made a selection of adapters to connect to the Molex standard, but I haven't needed them thus far. My K2's power cable has a power pole on its other end and I plan to power my K2/100 with one also. Mike Eaton, K5MJE Tijeras, NM K2 #1536 ++++++++++++++++ From: "Stuart Rohre" To: "Steve Jackson" , , "Larry Cahoon" Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] powering the K2/100 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:23:12 -0500 there is strong movement in Tx ARES groups to the Anderson Powerpole connector for main battery to outlet strip applications at least, and for HF rigs used in emergency operations, ie Portable. There has been a bad history of Molex connectors being overloaded by hams, and overheating if used for more than low power HTs or mobiles at VHF. 73, Stuart K5KVH +++++++++++++++++ From: Tim ORourke To: "'elecraft at mailman.qth.net'" Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:15:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole Connectors I have flown Electric R/C planes for years and the only reliable and low resistance conector is the Anderson Power pole. Electric sail planes can draw up to 60 or more amps for short durations, most other connectors will melt down. Do the math and see what even small amounts of resistance in connector will add up to in watts/heat/wasted energy at 60 amps and 14 volts. If the APP is not your ARES groups standard work to make the change. Tim O'Rourke KG4CHX +++++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , "cqc-l" , "Elecraft-list" , "ncarc-l" Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:16:23 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Folks, I've read postings about Anderson Power Pole (APP) connectors recently. I've been using them for a few years now, and have a power distribution system worked out using APPs. I put up a web page with pictures to share my ideas with others who may be interested in doing something similar: http://www.radioactivehams.com/~n0rc/app/pwr_distrib.html 73, Rod N0RC Ft Collins, CO +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:50:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Eaton Reply-To: rt66eaton at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Hi all, Well, I guess great minds think alike....HI HI. I looked at Rod's page and he had pictured virtually every adapter I've made up for myself. The one additional one that I've made up is a powerpole to cigarette lighter socket connector. I can power my laptop with a gell cell this way. Also, I'd like to point out a relatively new product that is available for powerpole users. WestMountain Radio has a power distribution panel based on the Anderson PowerPole called the RigRunner. I've bought one and it is very well made and had replaced the MFJ power panel in my shack. You can see it at: http://www.westmountainradio.com/RIGrunner.htm Mike Eaton, K5MJE Tijeras, NM K2 #1536 --- Rod N0RC wrote: > Folks, > > I've read postings about Anderson Power Pole (APP) connectors --- snip --- ++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:17:06 +0000 To: rt66eaton at yahoo.com, elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: Larry Cahoon Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage At 08:50 AM 4/10/2002 -0700, Michael Eaton wrote: >Hi all, > >Well, I guess great minds think alike....HI HI. I looked at Rod's page >and he had pictured virtually every adapter I've made up for myself. > >The one additional one that I've made up is a powerpole to cigarette >lighter socket connector. I can power my laptop with a gell cell this >way. Well I thought of a couple of other configurations. 1. Powerpole to banana plugs. 2. I stole the top from an old 9 Volt battery, soldered a couple of wires to the back of it, and added some hot glue to be sure they stayed there. With a powerpole connector on the other end it hooks up real nice to my K1 and a set of AA NiMH batteries in one of those little battery holders. 3. I have also found that I can stick three 18 gauge wires into the 30 amp connectors. So I've done that and put 15 amp powerpoles on the other end of each set of wires. Now I have a three way splitter. It serves much the same purpose as Ron's spider but is much more compact. 73 de Larry.........WD3P in MD http://www.qsl.net/wd3p/ ++++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: "Larry Cahoon" , , "Elecraft-list" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:43:00 -0600 Gang, See, this is the really cool thing about this system, it's expandable, adaptable...etc. The lower contact resistance and high current rating make it possible to attach many pieces together without worry. Kinda like "Legos for 'Lectricity". ;-) I like Larry's "N"-way branch idea. I chose the spider because it stretches out and can function as a short extension cord. I'll probably make an adapter like Larry's and toss it in my "power bag". (I keep all these gizmos in a large zip-lock plastic bag so they're handy when needed, I have a 2nd bag for RF interconnect "doodads") BTW: One thing I didn't mention earlier, I always crimp and solder my APP inserts for an extra measure of reliability. 73, Rod N0RC Ft Collins, CO +++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:54:52 -0600 From: "Rod N0RC" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [124313] Re: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Conrad et.al. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conrad Weiss" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage > Brad et al, > > I think Rod's got it figured :)! > > Powerwerx has the low-cost tool. Check out the "CT-1" crimper for only > $19.95 on their page. It also crimps 75amp connectors, so you can loan it > to buddies that do QRO ;) URL: http://www.powerwerx.com/crimper.html > I found the same tool at the local Home Depot for about $10 (year or more ago). So, shop around. The tool is a: GB (Gardner Bender) GS-88. 73, Rod N0RC Ft Collins, CO +++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:24:00 -0400 From: Tim ORourke To: "'qrp-l at Lehigh.EDU'" Subject: [124314] RE: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage The Power Pole connectors are also sold under the SERMOS name at R/C airplane shops and Mail order. The cheapest source is Dillon Industrial Supply if u want to buy in bulk. We have used for years on electric planes, only connector that will standup to 60 amp bursts and survive. Tim O'Rourke KG4CHX ++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:05:45 -0500 From: "Tim, N9PUZ" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [124317] Re: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Subject: Re: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage > OK I'm sold. Checked out the web page - the 45 amp unit uses a special > $140 tool. OUCH. > > What size do you use? I've pretty much standardized on the 30A contacts for my gear. My heaviest load, an Icom IC-718, needs about 20A maximum. Crimping them is nice, I have the Anderson tool for the 15A and 30A contacts, but you can solder any of them on without going to the expense of the tool. Note that the inexpensive ($19.95) tool PowerWerx sells will work but it is a generic crimper. The real Anderson tool which I didn't see on their site has more of a set of dies in the jaw that provides a better, more uniform crimp. I believe the PowerWerx tool would be adequate for most applications. If you solder the contacts it goes a lot easier if you drill a small hole opposite the seam so you can easily feed solder inside. There are openings on the end with the contact leaf but if you get solder flowed out onto the contact itself it can interfere with them smoothly mating. Another feature of the Anderson connectors not mentioned earlier is that the shells can lock together several different ways. You can easily polarize them so it's difficult to plug the wrong equipment together. In an emergency situation where you may have a field charger for handhelds or other NiCd cells that uses a 12 volt source battery you can use different polarizations to keep you from plugging the output of a charger into your bank of 12 volt SLAs, etc. Tim N9PUZ ++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:12:39 -0700 From: Mighty Mik To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [124328] RE: [CQCLIST] Anderson Power Pole connector usage They are also the connector of choice for robotica/robot wars/battlebot type robots. Some of those motors, when stalled, will draw 400+ amps. +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:26:26 -0500 From: "Stuart Rohre" To: Cc: Subject: [124398] Anderson Power Pole Connectors new ARES standard Message-ID: <038301c1e111$0b9089c0$4e100a0a at rohredt2000> Brad, Anderson is the heavy duty silver contact connector of choice for many ARES groups now. Much more robust than Molex, will not over heat, will not break, is thick metal unlike Molex. They are almost universally used for fork lift batteries, so those companies in each City have them for sale. The so called 50 amp type will do most any ham job. About $4 in quantity here. They are hermaphroditic, you do not have to worry about male and female. They are keyed to plug only one way to preserve polarity. Neat product. Colors of the Anderson two contact connectors denotes amperage rating, and they are sized to not get mixed up. Go by a fork lift supplier and ask if they have them and look them over. I think Allied and such distributors also sell them. 72, Stuart K5KVH ++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:16:00 +0000 To: "John McClain" , "Elecraft-list" From: Larry Cahoon Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage I got mine from Powerwerx.com. They came with the rods. I have found that in many cases they are not needed and sometimes they just fall out. Many times the groves on the side of the connectors are cut so they hold together on their own very well. But about 10-20% of the time they are useful. With the zip cord, unless you are careful to cut the ends and solder the connectors just right you can get the wire lengths off just a bit and this will tend to push the connectors apart. So I would go with the places that supply the rods. 73 de Larry..........WD3P http://www.qsl.net/wd3p/ At 05:40 PM 4/16/2002 -0700, John McClain wrote: >I just received an order of Anderson Power Pole connectors and 100 >feet of #12 cable from CABLE X-PERTS, INC. The cable is great but >don't buy the connectors there because they do include the roll pins >that used to fasten to connectors side by side. I sent them some >e-mail about the missing roll pins and they responded that they do not >include them because they are not needed. Beats me how they can say >that unless maybe they don't understand how the connectors go >together. The housing will probably stay together if you are using >stiff wire but I would still like to have the pins. > >John ++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:02:48 +0000 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: Brendan Minish Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Cc: "John McClain" At 17:40 16/04/2002 -0700, "John McClain" wrote: > I sent them some >e-mail about the missing roll pins and they responded that they do not >include them because they are not needed. Beats me how they can say >that unless maybe they don't understand how the connectors go >together. The housing will probably stay together if you are using >stiff wire but I would still like to have the pins. I have used Hundreds and Hundreds of APP 30A connectors and housings over the last few years, I have never yet even seen a roll pin, I have also never had a connector come apart either, they fit together nice and tightly The Roll pins are not required +++++++++++++++++ From: "John Wingard" To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:25:26 -0400 I've had good service from CABLE X-PERTS in the past, but for what it's worth, I ordered 50 sets of Anderson Power Pole connectors from PowerWerx (www.powerwerx.com) last Saturday and I received them Monday afternoon. You can't beat that for service, plus they came with the roll pins. As usual, no affiliation with the company, just a satisfied customer! de John WB4GLJ K2 #1057 K1 #1126 ++++++++++++++++++ From: "Todd Gahagan" To: "John Wingard" , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:48:12 -0600 Our club and EC group has been using the power pole connectors for almost 10 years. The roll pins are intended to be used when chassis mounting several pairs of powerpoles in a black plastic powerpole chassis socket. The pin holds the group of powerpoles in the socket. The sockets come in sizes to hold 2, 4, and 6 pairs as I recall. We just use friction to hold the connectors together. Often times, once they are pushed together they are very difficult to get apart. WA7U ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wingard" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage > I've had good service from CABLE X-PERTS in the past, but for what it's -- snip -- ++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: "John McClain" , "Larry Cahoon" , , "Elecraft-list" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:22:22 -0600 John, ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McClain" To: "Rod N0RC" ; "Larry Cahoon" ; ; "Elecraft-list" Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connector usage > I just received an order of Anderson Power Pole connectors and 100 > feet of #12 cable from CABLE X-PERTS, INC. The cable is great but > don't buy the connectors there because they do include the roll pins -- snip -- > > John I have ordered APPs from several sources over the years, some supply the roll pin, some don't. I don't use them. The plugs slide together securely and stay that way. I examined the interlocking tab and slot of some of my connectors. It appears that there is a very slight taper to the mating parts that insures a firm friction fit. Not having pins can be an advantage, you may want to side the connectors apart, and reorient them to mate with equipment setup a different way. BTW: My connectors fit so snug I have difficulty separating them to do this! 73, Rod N0RC Ft Collins, CO ++++++++++++++++++ Reply-To: From: "Tom Crites" To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:51:00 -0400 When making a set of cables, shouldn't each "source pigtail" be fused? I believe the K2 manual states that when running off a battery you should always fuse the supply cable as close to the battery as possible. 73, Tom +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:09:02 -0600 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22D=2ER=2E_Weiss_KI=D8RP=22?= Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Many thanks to all who contributed to the recent discussion of Anderson Power Pole connectors. You motivated me to build a complete set of cables for my radios and batteries using APP connectors. I bought mine from www.powerwerx.com, which supplies roll pins with the connectors. I am using the roll pins, and they appear to work just fine. Thanks again. Dave Weiss KI0RP K2 #2249 ++++++++++++++++++++ Reply-To: "Bob Lewis (AA4PB)" From: "Bob Lewis (AA4PB)" To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 07:04:30 -0400 > believe the K2 manual states that when running off a battery you should > always fuse the supply cable as close to the battery as possible. That's always a good idea. The K2 has a fuse that will protect things from a short inside the K2. A fuse near the battery will protect from a short in the cable or connections (the coaxial power connector being the most likely). ++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:55:15 -0700 From: Larry Tree Tyree N6TR To: Tom Crites Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 06:51:00AM -0400, Tom Crites wrote: > When making a set of cables, shouldn't each "source pigtail" be fused? I > believe the K2 manual states that when running off a battery you should > always fuse the supply cable as close to the battery as possible. A very good point Tom. I once was visiting a friend's shack and was crawling around on the floor and found a very hot zip cord - probably 16 gauge. I had moved a table and put a leg of it on top of the wire and it shorted. It was hooked up to something like a 60 amp supply without any fuse. I am glad I found it - because it certainly was a fire hazard. The important thing is to fuse any conductor with a fuse appropriate for the size of the conductor. If you short the end of the wire, it must blow the fuse. Tree N6TR ++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 09:47:47 -0500 To: , elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?= Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Tom: That's always the best idea. Esp. if you are using a power source of (relatively) unlimited current, as when using a vehicluar battery. If you are using a power supply of 'modern' manufacture, virtually all of them are now designed with build-in current fold-back protection which will force them to (essentially) zero voltage/current output if they see a dead short. But it never hurts to add that small (and relatively low cost) extra measure of safety. Tom Hammond N0SS At 05:51 AM 4/21/02, you wrote: >When making a set of cables, shouldn't each "source pigtail" be fused? I >believe the K2 manual states that when running off a battery you should >always fuse the supply cable as close to the battery as possible. > >73, >Tom ++++++++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: "Larry Tree Tyree N6TR" , "Tom Crites" Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 09:26:59 -0600 Larry, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tree Tyree N6TR" To: "Tom Crites" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors > The important thing is to fuse any conductor with a fuse appropriate > for the size of the conductor. If you short the end of the wire, > it must blow the fuse. > A better idea to fuse for the load not the wire. 73, Rod N0RC Ft Collins, CO ++++++++++++++++++++++ From: "Lyle Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:28:53 -0700 OK, My turn :-) In a power disrtibution system (RigRunner, a 747, your house wiring, etc.) you fuse at the source for the safe wire current carrying capacity. At the load end, you fuse for the load. That's why your house wiring is matched to the circuit breaker rating, not the current requirement of the frequency counter you might plug in. And that is why your K2 is protected internally for the current it requires, not the current its exernal power wiring might be able to accomodate. Enjoy! 72/73, Lyle KK7P ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: kc4kgu at ENTERZONE.NET To: Tom Crites Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole connectors On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Tom Crites wrote: > > When making a set of cables, shouldn't each "source pigtail" be fused? I > believe the K2 manual states that when running off a battery you should > always fuse the supply cable as close to the battery as possible. > > 73, > Tom > The RIGrunner is fused individually at every powerpole connector. 73 de John - KC4KGU K2 #2490 ++++++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: "David A. Belsley" , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson connectors Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:31:39 -0600 Dave, Power Werx, http://www.powerwerx.com/ Cable X-perts, http://www.cablexperts.com/ have good prices and fast shipping. Note the large quantity prices, you might what to do a group buy with locals to get a real good price. If you are using them for low current applications, consider the 15 Amp insert. It's a better fit for small gauge wire. The shells for the 15 & 30 amp inserts are the same size. The only difference between the inserts, is the barrel size to accept larger/smaller wire. 73, Rod N0RC ----- Original Message ----- From: "David A. Belsley" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:10 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson connectors > Where is a good (best) mail or on-line source for the Anderson Power-Pole > connectors? > > thanks, > > dave belsley, w1euy +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:10:02 -0400 From: "Mark J. Dulcey" To: "Mark J. Dulcey" Cc: pjhend at ameritech.net, elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft gray & APP? Mark J. Dulcey wrote: > Mark J. Dulcey wrote: > >> >> Wouldn't those just be the regular PowerPoles? The PowerPole shells >> used in the KPA100 are normal; what's different is the special contact >> pins that go to the circuit board. I wonder where Elecraft gets those; >> the Anderson web site (http://www.andersonpower.com/) doesn't seem to >> list them. > > > To answer my own question: Allied Electronics > (http://www.alliedelec.com/) lists PCB mount pins for PowerPoles. They > have both straight and right-angle versions. The PowerPoles are on page > 298 of their catalog. And to further answer myself, I found them on the Anderson web site. They're listed as a separate product (PCB PowerPoles) rather than in the regular PowerPole section. You can get the engineering drawings there, just in case you need the dimensions and stuff. ++++++++++++++ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:05:35 -0400 From: "Mark J. Dulcey" To: "Mark J. Dulcey" Cc: pjhend at ameritech.net, elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft gray & APP? Mark J. Dulcey wrote: > > Wouldn't those just be the regular PowerPoles? The PowerPole shells used > in the KPA100 are normal; what's different is the special contact pins > that go to the circuit board. I wonder where Elecraft gets those; the > Anderson web site (http://www.andersonpower.com/) doesn't seem to list > them. To answer my own question: Allied Electronics (http://www.alliedelec.com/) lists PCB mount pins for PowerPoles. They have both straight and right-angle versions. The PowerPoles are on page 298 of their catalog. ++++++++++++++++ From: "John McClain" To: , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Poles Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:21:17 -0700 I don't know about small towns like L.A. but I was able to buy them here in big Tucson at both of our electronic parts stores (not Radio Shack though). John K7SVV k7svv at arrl.net K1 #1378, K2 #2569, SST 20, Rock Mite 20, Rock Mite 40, Nor'Easter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Poles > Anyone know where to get them around the L.A. area? > Tried Home Depot and Lowe's, but nothing there. > TIA, Geoff, K6TFZ +++++++++++++++++ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:38:22 -0500 From: N2EY at aol.com To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Poles I found the cheapest and easiest way to but Anderson Power Poles was - eBay! They are apparently popular with the RC model folks. Got 24 pair (that's 48 connectors, 24 red, 24 black) for less than $1 per pair, including postage. And the seller through in a handy pair of mini-screwdrivers that are now part of the N2EY K2 field kit. 73 de Jim, N2EY ++++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: , Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Poles Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:19:50 -0700 All, Check out Cable X-perts: http://www.cablexperts.com They offer 1 pkg of 10 red, 10 black and 20 inserts for $8.95; 5 pkgs for $7.95 per pack; and 10 pkgs for $6.95 per pack. Buy some with a friend or club and save big $$$ on the product & shipping. 73, Rod N0RC +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:52:07 -0600 To: From: Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?= Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Poles Thanks Rod. That's a GREAT price. I bought seom from them at Dayton last year, but couldn't recall WHO it was I'd bought them from... wanted more and too cheap to order from PowerWerx. Here's the link to take you directly to the Anderson Power Pole connector page at Cable X-perts. http://www.cablexperts.com/cfdocs/cat.cfm?ItemGroup=9&itmsub=0&bskt=0&USA_ship=1&c=0 If the URL has wrapped (it's pretty long), you will have to COPY 'n PASTE the two pieces into your browser in order to get where you want to be. But this still saves having to 'hunt' for the proper link once you're at the Cable X-perts home page. ++++++++++++++++ To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net From: W4YN at ARRL.Net Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 05:11:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Elecraft] Anderson Power Pole Prices Cable Expert Prices are very gud. When I buy in bulk for R/C stuff my cost for 100 pair is around .76 per pair so they do have a very competive price. Tim W4YN +++++++++++++++++ From: "Rod N0RC" To: , "Charles" Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole Query Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 07:54:03 -0600 Charles, ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Charles" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole Query > HI Charles > I have been lurking on this thread. I don't have any of the APP > connectors but do have an elecraft waiting to be built. at any rate my > question is... do the 15 amp connectors mate up to the 30 amp > connectors? > Yes. The shell of the 15 and 30 amp connectors are the same. What is different is the metal insert, the blades/contact surfaces are the same, but the barrels are different sizes to accommodate the different gauge wire. Considerable detail is available on the Anderson Power Product site at: http://www.andersonpower.com/products/pp/pp.html > On a side note I have been thinking of getting an enclosure and making > a power bus type of thing. do the APP connectors come in a case > mount version? > Anderson make a chassis-mount shell that can contain the connector shells, to accommodate chassis mounting. A finished product is available from West Mountain Radio: http://www.westmountainradio.com/ Check the Anderson site (above) for parts and pieces to "roll your own". 73, Rod N0RC ++++++++++++++++++++