Sky-Watcher SK80ED

I got myself a SK80ED, a used one. Set me down by €350 + €40 for "beugels" (brackets). BTW, it requires ,,böööchls” for a 102mm achromat.

Some daylight testing revealed: great little thing! Just it's not really small, and it's weighing quiet something...

Performance, tested it with 2" and 1¼" EP, starting 50mm (!), ending with 10mm and the 3xBarlow (would result in a magnification of about 200x). Unfortunately GSO and Synta do not seem to be compatible. I've got a set of GSO 2" EPs which refuse to slide into focus, now it comes, the Synta-scopes have not enough front-focus when a 2" diagonal is installed. My Synta 2" EPs are, on the other hand, working just fine.
Very very smooth focusing with a Crayford.

Talking about the Crayford, it was not properly adjusted, with the tension screw completely unfastened it was still really tight. Thus, taking apart, cleaning, adjusting, reposition the Teflon® foil fixed the problem.

The ,,Sijthoff''-building was used for testing... went to the scopes maximum magnification (80mm -> 3.15") of 60x3.15=189 (EP 10mm + 3xBalow @ F=600mm). On stars I will be testing beyond the limit... whenever the "new telescope(s) curse" is over. My SK80ED is now sitting on the H-EQ5 waiting for sky.

Update I:
The curse let me off the hook for a couple of minutes.... Mars already showed structure using 3xBarlow and 10mm (super wide angle) EP. Still it was very bright, I guess a filter could help. No false color as far as I could judge.
My apologies to GSO, I could focus M45 with all three (SuperView, Wide View Five Elements - gosh, what a name) EPs. 50mm left me about 0.5mm "front focus", 42mm and 30mm left (logically) a little bit more. Worth to be mentioned that the by far cheaper Synta 32mm and 26mm EPs find focus with about 2cm of "front focus" using a diagonal.
Even with the 2" focuser nearly fully retracted there is no vignetting. Well, give it a go, simple arithmetics, the damn thing is a 3.15", having 600mm focal length.... Hint: consider geometrical optics.... Forget about Mr Abbe for a second.
Little more on EPs: Since my visus is still quiet good, no spectacles, I consider my focus settings as "infinite", thus, one wearing correction glasses might run into troubles using the GSO EPs. However, the GSOs have quiet some eye-relief, allowing for vision corrective optical elements being in the light path.

You want to use a mount such as the H-EQ5 or heavier. First, the instrument is rather heavy, secondly the 2" accessories do have their weight, thirdly despite the small aperture of just 8cm the scope seems to allow for high optical power. There was not enough hole in the cloud, thus, no time to point onto a bright star or a double for deeper study of diffraction rings/pattern. However, there were some diffraction rings around stars, looking quiet ok....
Can't wait to attach a webcam to the gizmo and let the CCD tell me more about aberrations.

Update II:
Now that the curse is back on it's duty, I found time to improve the focuser, as indicated on the www (on the orion 80ed which is identical anyway). The focuser pin left traces on the "flat" surface indicating that the surface was not as flat as it should be, on some places the pin seemed to have had contact with only the outer edges, not really what was invented.... Solution, as proposed, grinding using a grindstone. Did that for about 1h. Movement is quiet tricky, very short strokes, making sure not to add curvature to the surface. OK, the grinding results in removal of the anodization, which is a pitty since anodized Al looks sooo nice. Anyway, the focuser is now, with the same amount of stress on the pin, more frictional. Traces show that the pin now is in contact with much more surface area of the flat. Not yet perfect though, but much better.

On the Inet it further is suggested to replace the pin with one having a larger diameter, I am not quiet sure what this is good for, since doing so will change the gear ratio a less desirable value. I'd rather chance it so smaller diameter, which would sacrifice traction, thus, also will be no good....

Update III:
Todays cloudless hour (5pm-6pm) was usable for tests on Venus and Moon. As promised, this was the turn to toughly test the tiny telescope, i.e. pushing it to and beyond the limits...
Venus quickly hide itself behind tress, but, there was enough time for a short glimpse. Nice crescent, clear edges. Started 15mm (GSO), next step: adding the 3xBarlow, both setting gave a nice result. Further increasing magnification I put in a 6,4mm SuperPlössl (Meade 4000), again very pleasing result, no color yet. BTW: We are talking about a magnification of 280! Venus disappeared.
Next target: Moon. I left the setup as is. Short walk over moon's surface... Following test, now pushing beyond: 3xBarlow + 2xBarlow + 6.4mm. Now were talking about 560x, which clearly is beyond what's usable with 80mm aperture. And, in fact, things got mushy. Back to reasonable: 3xBarlow with a 4mm Kellner, still this should be a little too much (450x) for the scope, but... at least for structures on the moon, it was not. A intra-focal structures became a slight red haze, extra-focal this haze became blue, in focus no color what so ever.

Update IV:
Some more hours (!) of clear sky. Now we're talking... Mars, nicely high in the sky, very good transparency, seeing quiet ok. Thus, point the scope to Mars. Tests are now concerned with the maximum possible magnifications and the eyepieces to obtain these. After centering Mars, the 3xBarlow and the 4mm Kellner were sent to action resulting in a crisp clear image of the planet. Clearly structure was visible, still Mars was quiet bright. This test was about EPs, as mentioned above, therefore the next candidate found it's way into the Barlow: a 4mm SuperRamsden (SR). Since a Ramsden design is nothing but a better Huygens, there was not so much to be expected. I was not disappointed, the image in fact was more blurry than the one obtained by the Kellner. Next test: replace the 4mm SR with a 4mm MA (modified achromat). A “modified achromat” is supposed to be an improved Kellner, but is it? It's different, but it is not improved... The 4mm MA in fact gave the worst image of all.
Back to the 4mm Kellner, now testing on filters. It appears that most important for better visual impression is the reduction of brightness. First filter to join the game the “Baader Nd-Sky-Glow” giving a good result. More or less the same result with the “Baader Contrast Booster”. The Nd-filter provided a more “red” appearance. It's hard to tell which gave the nicer result.
Enough of high optical power stuff... M45 nicely visible, thus, chance of EP, 40mm Plössl (Celestron). Very very very impressive view, even through a 1.25” back-end. A little bit of negative distortion, no wonder... Same experience with a 32mm Plössl (also Celestron), less distortion though. In either case I could not visually constitute coma.
Now, going for the star individually, increasing magnification. The 4mm Kellner on stars, and, in a second step boosted by first a 2xBarlow and than a 3xBarlow. Nothing to complain about! Nice Airy-discs, nice diffraction rings, symmetric, concentric, in one word: perfect.
I intended to split some double stars for testing, the sky however was not fulfilling my wish for more and decided to close the cloud-cover again.



Last modified December 10th 2005